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Down the rabbit hole.... sorry, just venting.

Joseph Sliker — Mon, 20 May 2013 15:29:10 GMT

About a week ago I thought I was making good progress with starting to learn about javascript.

Then, I noticed that for some reason I can't get what seems like a very basic script result to display in Internet Explorer v.8 on an Windows XP machine (which is the required standard that we are required to use across our enterprise 'cause we don't have the resources to keep up with new stuff).

...so I am farting around with that (still no luck) for days and days.

NOW I find that a host server where I personally have a site (where I can test stuff to my heart's content without having to worry about destroying anything important at my job) is filling up error_logs with hundreds of thousands of K of pointless/unneeded error messages (caused, apparently by some incorrect configuration of php on the server). So I'm corresponding back and forth with the low-level support staff that thought they implemented a good solution...but did not.

...I'm so far from my new learning about javascript right now, I'm beginning to forget why the heck I even needed to learn about it in the first place. Arrrrrgh! :confused:

Maybe I should leave all this programming stuff to programmers and get back to trying to learn to play piano.

No Glue project

no-glue — Mon, 13 May 2013 07:12:55 GMT

Hi guys. Can you tell me what do you think of No Glue project?

The aim is to create a set of loose components in PHP that can be used individually or combined to make web applications. Whoever likes the idea can join the project too.

https://bitbucket.org/npavlicevic/no-glue
https://bitbucket.org/npavlicevic/no-glue-blog

Joomla: Yes or No?

phpnewbie34 — Sat, 11 May 2013 12:25:14 GMT

I apologize if this seems like a silly question...

But is Joomla worth using?

I have read it works great with PHP sites, but I'm wondering if it has any real value.

Thanks

Code just for the helluvit

NogDog — Fri, 10 May 2013 21:04:14 GMT

Silliness that passed the last quarter hour of work today:

PHP Code:


class foo {

    public function foo(&$foo) {

        $foo = create_function(

            '$foo',

            'echo "Hello, $foo.";'

        );

    }

}

new foo($foo);

$foo('foo');

Is there a brain mod for avoiding deprecated function calls?

dalecosp — Wed, 08 May 2013 22:03:35 GMT

The other day I was typing away at some code in some file or another.

I linted it and then ran it in the browser. Although lint was fine, the browser test croaked.

A survery of the server logs produced:

Quote:

Originally Posted by Apache2.2

Fatal error: mysql_result() expects parameter 1 to be string, object given in /something.php on line X

Now, one could argue that my mysqli_result() hack is partially responsible for this, but I'm gonna blame my fingers, which are connected via a complex organic control/feedback loop from my central processing wetware.

Anyone got any hints for teaching your fingers to always type the "i" after mysql?

:D

IE 10 --- still not attuned to standards?

dalecosp — Tue, 30 Apr 2013 21:16:07 GMT

Quote:

Originally Posted by IE 10's F12 Developer Tools

HTML1406: Invalid tag start: "

The offending code:

Code:

I suppose that's outdated now, too?

:bleh:

Is JS frustrating in the macro world?

dalecosp — Tue, 30 Apr 2013 15:12:41 GMT

I've often posted about micro-frustrations with Javascript. It's rather unlike PHP; it's the language of the browser, not the server; it doesn't seem to have clear-cut rules ("Always Use Semicolons", "Don't use semicolons --- JS will add the ones it needs"); and debugging it *used to be* like herding cats (thank you, Whomever, for Firebug). :)

But is the "macro" world of Javascript also frustrating? What it seems to me: the only people writing "pure" JS are the library devels; everyone who works in the real world uses a mix of pure JS and some library. Since it deals directly with the DOM, the community is full of HTML newbs, artsy graphics designer types and more trolls than a Grimm's tale. And the target is "the modern browser" (whichever of the $x++ it is this month) --- which leads to a decision tree that makes complex XML documents looks like tinker-toys by comparison.

So, I'm trying to figure out the community, the paradigm I will use to increase my ability to be a "front end" developer ... since I'm basically the *only* devel here. What do I read? What do I practice (in my "free" time, ;) ;) )? What do I believe? Do I follow Crockford, Eich, or someone else? Do I devote myself to jQuery even though some of our web properties are YUI-based ... and do I ignore Scriptaculous even though it's still being used on some company pages? Do I slow down my sites by including "my" library along with the ones the original developers used?

I'm not saying that the PHP community is perfect either; not by a long shot. But I'm really having trouble with the entire idea of attempting to master JS. I mean, I can write the schiz ... it just takes *forever* compared with PHP (that's probably a function of my experience).

If this is a rant, please excuse me. I'm just trying to think out loud in a place where I'd probably just sound like "blah blah blah" to most anyone else I can bend an ear on ....

What do *you* think?