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    General bulletin board guidelines

    What is the point of this guideline?

    "Netiquette" is a clever term coined by The Committee of Cool Internet Terms. It means "follow these rules or be incessantly flamed!" Ok, I don't really know who came up with the term, but it basically means "proper etiquette rules for use in cyberspace."

    Ok, but why should I care?

    Imagine this: You are an expert poker player. You decide to invite some friends over to play every Friday night. Each of you has many different forms of poker you like to play, and after a few nights, you have all learned many different games. You have fun. You eat Doritos and drink cheap beer. Life is good.

    One evening, your buddy Clyde tells you his cousin wants to play. You are reluctant, but Clyde reminds you of the time he saved your life when you were choking on a chip (Dorito, not poker), and you give in. Wimp.

    The cousin, Phil, shows up next Friday night, sits down to play, and you announce the first game: Texas Hold'em! Phil smiles at you and asks, "how do you play Texas Hold'em?" You contemplate throwing your beer at him, but realize just in time that it would be a terrible waste of beer. So, instead, you explain the rules of the game. Fortunately, he seems to get it, and you play on.

    Now -- wouldn't it be REALLY cool if you had all the rules of the games printed out so that Phil could have read them before joining your poker table? There is -- Hoyle's Book of Card Games. Well... consider this guide your Hoyle's Rules of Netiquette. Sure, you won't win any money, and you won't learn how to bluff, but hopefully after reading this you will be able to post messages without incurring the wrath of the PHP Gods.

    Ok, so what do I need to know?

    There are many things you can do to make your and everyone's experience on the board more enjoyable. You could try posting some nudie pics, but it probably won't get past the board admins. So instead, here is a list of things to consider. I have pulled this list directly from the official Netiquette Guidelines, RFC 1855. I have only included those that apply to this board. For the full list, see the RFC.

    *** In the interest of saving space, I am dropping the RFC Netiquette guidelines from this post. They are still relevant, however -- please take a look at them here. ***

    Oooh, tell me more!

    Yeah, I know... exciting stuff, huh?

    There are a few things to consider that pertain more specifically to this PHP board. I will list them here; this list may grow over time.
    • Don't send emails or instant messages to members of the board asking for help. That is the equivalent of a salesman calling up in the middle of dinner to sell you a vacuum cleaner. It's rude, and you will NOT get a favorable response. If you want help, that's what the forums are for.
    • When submitting a problem, state the problem in your subject. Most people will skip over subjects that say "Help me please" or "Please read this!!!!!" If you want help, you need to catch their eye with a specific statement, like "How do I create multiple page searches?"
    • Having a problem with your code? Include a snippet, and be sure to wrap it in [PHP] tags. This makes it MUCH easier to read! Try to minimize the amount of code that has to be waded through. Try to remove parts with the aim of reducing the script to the smallest piece of code that still exhibits the problem. As you snip away parts of your code, you may discover what the problem is yourself, and not have to post your question after all!
    • Be sure to read and try to understand the error messages. Yes, some of them are somewhat obscure, esoteric and sometimes downright surreal, but they do convey meaning. If it says that a file or directory could not be found, then chances are that a file or directory could not be found.
    • When requesting help, please be as specific as possible. Don't just say "This code isn't working" and list your PHP code. Nobody has time to read through your entire code list and determine where there might be a problem. Be sure to include the error messages you are receiving, and let them know what you have attempted to do to fix the problem. There's nothing more frustrating than composing a message telling you to try something, only to have you come back and say "I already tried that. It didn't work."
    • Be accurate! One wrong character can cause code to not work correctly. Make sure the code you are submitting for review is EXACTLY the code you are having trouble with. Cut and paste it -- don't attempt to retype it. Most likely, you will not type it exactly, and if someone tries to tell you "there's your problem, you forgot the semi-colon," the last thing he wants to hear is, "oh, that's there, I just forgot to put in there when I typed it in my message."
    • EDIT your posts! This forum allows you to edit your posts for a while after you've made them. That is how I keep adding content to this guideline. If you see a mistake, or have something to add, simply edit your post and add it. It is very frustrating to read someone's post about a problem, only to have to go through 5 more posts that basically say "oops, there should have been a semicolon at the end of line 14." Edit your original post and PUT the semicolon in. There's nothing wrong with putting "EDIT: I added a flurg to the blatt on line 42 of my code" at the end of your post.
    • If you forget the above rule and double post, do NOT post "oops, I double posted -- sorry." That just adds to the mess.
    • Fill your mouth with cheezits and whistle your National Anthem. Ok, just checking to make sure you are paying attention.
    • Please do not "bump" your posts. For the uninitiated, a "bump" is a simple post that says "bump" in the subject or body, and doesn't contribute any additional value to the thread. It is done for the sole purpose of making the thread show up at the top of the forum list. If your thread has significant content, someone will find it with a search. You do NOT need to bump it up to the top to force people to read it over and over. It is quite irritating to open a thread that has new posts added only to find out that it has been bumped and has no new important info.
    • Don't crosspost, or worse, shotgun. Crossposting is the practice of posting the same question in more than one forum. Shotgunning is the same thing, but posted in almost every forum to maximize the number of people reading the post. Most people here read all of the forums, and don't want to read the same questions over and over. If you have a specific question, put it in the most relevant forum. If you can't decide which forum is most relevant, put it in the General Help forum.
    • DO NOT send a member of the forum an IM asking them for help. The forums are the places to ask for help with issues. Sending an IM to a member is no better than a telemarketer calling you at dinnertime. It's rude, and unwelcome. Don't do it. Only send IM's when invited.

    Yes... more, please!

    There are a couple of FAQs (Frequently Asked Questions) here on phpbuilder.com that you should read:

    Reading and Posting Messages
    • Information such as what smilies are, and how to create polls

    General Board Usage
    • Information such as how to search the board, and how to send email to users.

    That's about it. Feel free to add your comments, or discuss it here.
    Last edited by Weedpacket; 11-20-2012 at 07:19 AM.

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    cool

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    Thanks, Matt!
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    You've definitely got a way with words!

    *fills his mouth with cheezits & discovers that whistling is on the verge of impossible*

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    hehe. Glad to see someone caught that LOL

    I noticed a few people don't think a guide like this is useful. I would love to get some feedback, either positive or negative, and perhaps some suggestions for improvement.
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    hehe buzzly u broke 1 of those rules, replying to a merely reply.. hihihi

    sorry couldn't withstand that

    futher i cannot say anything else then, NICE
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    LOL... uh... well... um... I was just, uh, demonstrating what NOT to do... was, uh, seeing if anyone would catch that. Yeah. Good job!

    Hey, what's that over there?!
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    Well, that also shows that your smart too! lol

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    Originally posted by BuzzLY
    LOL... uh... well... um... I was just, uh, demonstrating what NOT to do... was, uh, seeing if anyone would catch that. Yeah. Good job!

    Hey, what's that over there?!
    well it's alowed in this thread

    and in general i believe their is nothing wrong when u end a thread by thanking some1 and letting them know their solution worked.

    They are guide lines not rules, so u can try live by em as good as possible and if u do it will make reading forums alot easier, because u cut the content to the point.

    as long it sticks to the poster who is replying with these kind of things(replying on other replies that is), it is ok.. at least as far as i understand it.

    Anywayz, i think alot of people could learn something from article, only more should read it
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    Very interesting Buzzly! As someone relatively new to boards, i found it interesting - and luckily i have been posting within the guidelines you so elegantly outlined.

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    As good as it all sounds your likely not too see anyone actually following that at all..

    Sorry. But its my opinion..

    Most nOObies dont look at stickied threads or Rules nor do they even search.. Poor nOOb they may find an answer without that hassle of waiting..

    But in our age.. No one wants to search nor read posts that probably should be read.. but are too lazy..

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    I don't think it's a matter of laziness -- it's just a question of education. When you call a helpdesk, do you go through their automated service to see if your problem has been documented, or do you immediately hit "0" to get to an operator?

    People may not know these guidelines. That's why it's in the Newbie forum, and stuck at the top. Hopefully, a few will read it, and learn from it.

    Now that we have these guidelines, if a newbie doesn't follow them properly, we can simply give them a link to this thread, rather than flame them and insult them.

    As Martha would say... "that's a good thing."
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    Yeah, not bad. Nice to link to RFC's too, but I have to wonder whether someone who's "noob" enough to need all these rules would have any concept of what to do with a whitepaper.....

    The Cheetos thing was funny, indeed.

    Also, I thank you for the effort involved...you could be truthful though, and say whether or not it was highly original or dubious IP theft, heh, heh.

    Lastly, on the "flame war" participation thing....you should probably give a stern warning about how addictive they are, and that the only antidote is "cold turkey", maybe with a description of killfiles, etc....



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    Originally posted by dalecosp


    The Cheetos thing was funny, indeed.
    Sorry, Cheezits, WHT.....

    What key should the Anthem be whistled in, legally speaking?

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    Originally posted by dalecosp
    ... I have to wonder whether someone who's "noob" enough to need all these rules would have any concept of what to do with a whitepaper.....

    ...

    ...you could be truthful though, and say whether or not it was highly original or dubious IP theft, heh, heh.

    ...

    What key should the Anthem be whistled in, legally speaking?
    Not sure if they would know what to do with it, but that's why I included the pertinent part in my post. If they are interested in reading the whole thing, that's what the link is for.

    I don't know what you mean about "dubious IP theft..." The article itself was totally original -- I wrote it right here on this forum. The only "stolen" part is the bullet points, which of course I give credit to the RFC.

    Pick any key you like -- and be sure to record a wav file for us to hear it
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