thanks, i was just reading about "empty" and have read mixed reports, I am really just after the solution to why it is always telling me that the variable is empty, even though it is not....and i guess that it is because there is no allowance for :
..if the textfield has a value and the dropdown does not then continue...
The whole problem stems from having two inputs for the one variable, the form works fine with just one of the fields there and has worked fine with both, but as soon as I put in the checking for empty variables it is not working....