Sorry I just posted another thread before I saw this one. What do you guys think about Dreamweaver MX? It is the first tiem I have seen a visual designer for people that do PHP/MySQL. Seems to do great on the visual side and not mess with your custom code on the coding side. Looks like the best of both worlds. Plus the speed of writing is blowing me away. Teh database integration is awesome!

  • Christopher

    If, like me, you've been raised on ASCII editors and are used to separating the presentation (i.e. HTML) layer from the code (using Smarty or such like) then you'll find Dreamweaver damned fricken irritating - the GUI gets right in the way and it still doesn't produce XHTML1.0 compliant code. It's not exactly cheap either.

    I say bar humbug to those newfangled whizz-bang didgeridoos - give me UltraEdit, brainpower and the PHP Manual any day! 🙂

      Originally posted by dannys
      then you'll find Dreamweaver damned fricken irritating - the GUI gets right in the way and it still doesn't produce XHTML1.0 compliant code. It's not exactly cheap either.

      Aaaaactually, a friend corrected me on this about 1 1/2 years ago. If you KNOW how to use Dreamweaver, then it will produce compliant code.

      He's now a Homesite user 😕

        i use dreamweaver mx as well. all previous versions of DW pissed me off, but DMX is well written, not buggy and the PHP/MySQL server behaviours are quite nice.

          Hmmm.... Doesnt anyone use Jext? I think its great allthought it is a bit slow bcos its made in java. Theres also little bugs in it, but I like its simplicity. Its more like a javaprogrammers tool, but I also program in Java so it doesnt matter :-)

          If you guys wanna check it out then point your browser to: jext.org

            I used DMX for a week or so, while building a GUI in HTML/PHP.
            Thought it was pretty good, well that was untill it locked all my files and made me loose about 4 hours of hard work. Needless to say I promptly uninstalled it. (it was only a trial version anyway) so no money lossed.
            May use it again in the future (if my company gets its dosh out), and the full version is less buggy.

              I had been using HomeSite since day, really pleased with that product. So after Macromedia I migrated to Dreamweaver. I didn't like Dreamweaver 4 as it didn't support php code, but with the upgrade to MX, I found I'm liking it more and more. I wish there were some features from HomeSite included, but maybe they will be more integrated with the next version.

              Only problem(s) I have with DMX is 1. it is a resource hog. My poor home machine whines. No problem with the one at work. 🙂 2. It is annoying when the connection to the server is lost that it pops up a window advising you of that fact. And sometimes if you goto save at the same time as it's about to bug out, you have to cancel the save and wait for it to fully disconnect. With HomeSite it was transparent and when you went to upload it'd just reconnect.

              Over all though, I'm pleased with it.

                Dang it am I the only ole' school guy here (shurley not). Emacs + Linux (Debian) completely GNUed out .

                🙂

                The only editor that has a phycologist on hand to help you out.
                M-X doctor

                and if you get bored can play games such as

                M-X donnet
                and
                M-X gomoku

                so C-X C-C if you dont have it 🙂

                also check your mail read your news... the next install ment will even drink mountain dews and go to the restroom for you. 🙂

                  Nah, you're not the only one. I'm spoiled by broadband, I just log in to the remote and open vi.

                  I tried Zend Studio and it's just not there yet - i'm still quicker in vi.

                  emacs? Nah, I don't like Mt Dew

                  😃

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                  I found that my problems with Zend Studio were due to my connection.
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                    did I mention the next version comes with a breathalizer? :-D

                      I use Dreamweaver MX or Notepad, depending on how large/complicated a document is.

                      I'm still stuck with Windows but that might change eventually.

                        I use TextPad for Windows and QuantaPlus for Linux - both are good.

                          Hi guys!

                          I use the Maguma Studio light for php. It is free of charge and has nice features like a debuger, auto-wrap etc.

                          Have a look at : http://www.maguma.com

                          HawkOfLight

                            I'm johns friend who use to use dreamweaver. I used Dreamweaver as a learning tool, I basicly used dreamweaver to learn HTML. Do something in the editor and check the source to see what code it wrote.

                            I swore by dreamweaver for the longest time. I used 1,2,3,4, and DW4DE never used MX. I use pretty much nothing but homesite and ultraedit now. Dreamweaver is a good editor, and can produce compliant html, the thing is you kinda have to teach dreamweaver how to do it. You have to play with the preffrences, till it behaves the way you want.

                            Many of its features are pretty sweet, it a good editor for projects with more then one developer. Its template feature set is a god send in a situation where theres more then one person developing, provided everyone knows how to use it.

                            My all time favorite feature which I still to this day use, is dreamweaver can import a delimited text file, and table it for you in less then 10 seconds. I've yet to find another application that will do this, if anyone knows of one pls post a link.

                            I kinda grew out of dreamweaver, I got fed up with trying to make dreamweaver behave the way I wanted, in the long run it cost me more time, for a while I use to use DW for tables (when I was still a newbie wink), I'm now a Grandmaster Table coder lol. If you don't play Everquest you won't get the Grandmaster joke hehe.

                            As far as php support, like I said I never used MX so before it was released I had allready switched to homesite and ultraedit perminantly. I've yet to find an application that can help you write PHP like homesite helps you write HTML. Again if anyone knows of any such app post a link.

                            I appoligize for the long post, I can talk about dreamweaver for days lol.

                              16 days later

                              Been using HotDog Profesional for 5 years on Windows 95/98.
                              I've been programming HTML since 97 with it and when I recently upgraded to the new version was happy to find it supports php, java, css, has made the last few months of learning PHP very easy because it knows the syntext better than I do.

                              http://www.sausage.com/

                                hehe I remember I was using HoTMetaLPro back in 96 😃 thank God none of the pages I was puking at that time remains 😉

                                  hehe I remember I was using HoTMetaLPro back in 96 😃 thank God none of the pages I was puking at that time remains 😉

                                    HotMetalPro, that takes me back to about '96 too, ooh what fond memories .... not.
                                    At the moment I am stuck for a good editor, I have tried about 20 in the last 6 months and still looking for a decent one.

                                    Today Im using PHP Edit V0.6 (stable) 🙁

                                    Here is what I would like to see in a PHP Editor:
                                    1. Syntax Highlight support for HTML, CSS, JavaScript, PHP.
                                    2. File Manager on the side (dockable).
                                    3. Code Structure thingy (shows methods, variables and classes)
                                    4. Extended find and replace with regular expression support.
                                    5. Integrated Debugger.
                                    6. Configurable Macros/Toolbar operations with creation support.
                                    7. Code Block commenting.
                                    8. Sytax Indentation support (as a toolbar option and hot key)
                                    9. Live syntax checking.
                                    10. Multiple page editing .
                                    11. Code block popping/ were you can expand blocks of code like komodo.
                                    12. Code split screen, like homesite.
                                    13. No Cost.

                                    So a mixture of Homesite, Dreamweaver MX, PHP Edit and Komodo. but free.

                                    Anyone who can suggest anything resembling this is a superstar.