I am very interested in working with MING....One problem. . I have a windows 2000 box i do most of my work from, and am most familiar with the os. I am running apache and php and MYSQl. I do have a Linux box I use but I am just learning that OS. I went and downloaded the MING files...Not sure if I have the right ones. it was a zip file..is this a hopeless case?