i would use an outside application, just dont want to install php server, a program similar to some html editors, where you can preview your html without having to run ie or netscape, i just thought there might be something for that. There's also the same type of apps for javascript, most of these are way too much for what i was looking for, but if it cant be done, it cant be done. I think it should be done, or maybe a website where you paste your code into and it parses for you, would be nice, probably pretty risky though. 🙂