problem in IE

syst3m

My site -- http://members.lycos.co.uk/syst3m1337

It works fine in Netscape 7 but not in IE 6. What is wrong? Is it the PHP? I think it is the PHP cause everything else should be working fine.

jpmoriarty

the php is server side, so if there's a problem with it then it wont display on anything (or wont display correctly on anything). If you're having browser specific problems then it's your html or java or whatever your php is generating.

i can only presume it's something to do with your doctype description - if you strip out all the stuff before <head> and replace it with a <html> then it displays. Check your adherence to the standards that you're quoting, because if theres a discrepancy there then it can cause your page not to display.

syst3m

Well I'll try it. I really don't want to get rid of the DOCTYPEs though. Is there another way?

jpmoriarty

ho ho, no you'll notice i didnt tell you to get rid of them - i said that if you get rid of them it works. I'm afraid to say that that's pretty much a huge indication that your code doesnt conform to the standards you're claiming it does, and as such it's "breaking down".

The solution is to make the code correct. The HTML validator seems to be down at the moment, but i'm guessing it'll find errors in your code if you run your page through it.

syst3m

Yeah I tried the validator earlier. It said no DOCTYPE specified but I did have one. I will validate later.

Here is my code with the PHP:

<?php print "<xml version=\"1.0\" encoding=\"utf-8\"?>" ?>
<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD XHTML 1.1 Strict//EN" "http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/DTD/xhtml1-strict.dtd">
<html xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml" lang="en-US" xml:lang="en-US">
 <head>
  <title>syst3m :: home</title>
  <meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8" />
  <link rel="stylesheet" type="text/css" href="main.css" />
  <script language="JavaScript" type="text/JavaScript" src="script.js"></script>
 </head>
 <body>
  <?php include("top.php"); ?>
    <td valign="top">
     <div id="main">
      Welcome to the syst3m!
      <p>
      Blah Blah Blah. I am lazy and can't think of anything to put in here so i will just
      fill this area up with junk. Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah 
      </p>
     </div>
    </td>
  <?php include("right.php"); ?>
 </body>
</html>

jpmoriarty

i'm not too sure why you've put up the php - it's not a php issue. If you go to your site and view the source, save that source code to your hard disk as a html file, guess what? It doesnt work.

All the PHP does is generate HTML - if html is generated (which it clearly is) and nothing happens on the browser, then it's not a php problem, it's a problem with your html.

Your doctype has to come before you tell it which version of xml you're trying to use. and then when you validate it you get (currently) 50 errors, which is probably why it's not working properly - you've specified that the conformance is "strict": you've set the bar, you're going to have to rise to it.

syst3m

No, the XML declaration can be before the DOCTYPE and I think it is supposed to be before it. I can't understand what is wrong with my code. I am about to revalidate now.

syst3m

Ok I fixed it! I overlooked a typo I had made in the code. I had <xml... instead of <?xml... Everything is fine now. The page still looks better in Netscape because that is the browser I created it in, but it works in Explorer. Thanks for your help. After validating it, I am getting some errors which I can't explain. With input I was putting a / at the end of the tag. It says that was wrong. Also the <br /> were registering as wrong.

jpmoriarty

the XML declaration can be before the DOCTYPE and I think it is supposed to be before it

I only thought that it wasnt given as the w3c site doesnt...

<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?>
<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD XHTML 1.0 Strict//EN"
    "http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/DTD/xhtml1-strict.dtd">
<html xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml" lang="en-US"
xml:lang="en-US">
<head profile="http://www.w3.org/2000/08/w3c-synd/#">
<meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8" />
...

but glad you sorted it

syst3m

I noticed in the code that you posted above that it has <head profile="...">. Do you know what that is?

jpmoriarty

no i dont sorry.

And i didnt realise that it's you zach from the Web developer forum! good to see you cracking into php too!