I've spent a while with PHP now and have got my first official/professional project with it, instead of HTML based. For those who are curious, it's setting up an intranet to access documents on the server and search them and such... except the requirements are that it be in ASP.net and done with Access (for the meta data for the documents.) :sigh: They didn't believe me when I said PHP would be better.

Anyway, in the course of looking for info for that project I found phpbuilders.com. I was already familiar with php.net... had to learn it for a school project.

I definitely like this site a lot better! It's friendlier, perhaps it's slightly less professional in how it goes about things, but I like the way it feels far more! It just seems like that much more fun! The articles are easier to explain (though why should I complain - I am a programming student, and this is still far more fun!)... it's just far better!

Just letting everyone know. =) I'm sure you figured this out long ago...

FernAshes

    Phpbuilder has in my opinion the best community I have seen. People are friendly and even if somebodys a noob and asks a noob question, they usually get the answer and not just "RTFM" like in so many places.

    In the beginning I was in wrong places learning PHP. Then I found this great place where I learned a lot just by reading this board and tried to figure out solutions to peoples problems.

    If you search posts by my name you can see that none of them are asking a solution to my own problem!

    Its my stubborn nature(not asking solutions, allways try to dig it myself) and also my everlasting hunger to learn new things by trying to find answers to those who seek them.

    Thankfully not all are using the same method to learn so there are problems to solve! 🙂

    IMHO php.net and phpbuilder.com together is the best solution if someone wants to learn and get help.

    On that ASP-issue... I had to learn also ASP/Access because the client demanded it. Hopefully I never have to program in ASP again! It was so horrible and I had to ask many times what mushrooms have these M$ boys taken when they thought some of the ASP's function usage 🙂

    2 days of work in PHP stretched to 2 weeks of work in ASP... Never again!

    And dont get me started when talking using Access!! 😃

      Wholeheartedly agree, fern!
      I've visited and registered at several other PHP sites- but keep coming back to this one for my answers, and of course just to BS which is what I do best 😃 This one is, by far, my fave.

      Glad to have you aboard!

      -Elizabeth

        Well, maybe this is by design. After all, this is phpBUILDER. It's about the programmer, the coder, the hacker, the noob with the project due ASAP. It's about the people who come around, choose some wacko name (and an even worse avatar) and talk about using a neat tool to make computers do important, and sometimes even 🆒 stuff on the 'Net.

        The other site is PHP.net. It's about, uh, a computer language. Now, if I need to read a manual about my favorite scripting language, it's off to php.net I go. With a trailing slash and the name of the function I want to lookup, it's better than even Google when it comes to quick info. But, if I want to interface with something bearing resemblence to a human, this site is the place.

        And most of these humans are pretty nice; funny; helpful; community-minded, etc. It's open-source at something close to its best, I suppose.

        Anyway, welcome to the community!!

          5 days later

          the weirdest thing I heard from a stubborn nt admin was "you have to do it in asp! php will make the system unstable."

          (but these guys wanted me to offer a maths training site for schools including a full java implementation of ms formula editor, too ... full interaction with asp and oracle ... for use by 100 pupils at the same time, in the same lab ... glad I did not have to do that.)

          😉
          matto

            Originally posted by matto
            the weirdest thing I heard from a stubborn nt admin was "you have to do it in asp! php will make the system unstable."

            He does kinda have a point. If you run PHP as a module on IIS, then the server will fall over quite a bit, so from an NT point of view, it does make the system unstable.

              and that's why if you want to run php in a windows environment you use apache 🙂

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