anyone got tutes on php layouts

[bvilleit]

anyone have a tutorial on doing the layout in php
i know it has some cool functions like include() but i kinda wanted to know more about designing with php
i kinda sorta know the database stuff

but rigt now im useing frames
a nessisary evil until i learn to use php for designing

[planetsim]

Sounds like you have just started out in PHP so ill be real nice
Firstly PHP isnt used for designing. Yes it can tell HTML if something is this then display that. But it doesnt design thats why HTML is there (Soon to be fully XHTML).

Frames are good and bad but it depends on the situation. For example i still use Frames in my Administration Panels because Admins arent suppose to be graphical which means it saves space, a lot of hard work doing everything over and over etc. i think you should get what im saying.

If you want to learn more about PHP you can try http://spoono.com most people recommend a book but with PHP unlike most languages i dont think you will even need it. There are plenty of Tutorials, snippets and of course the Manual. Always refer to it.

[FrozNic]

a basic outline, i think a lot of people use in there layout (for php anyway) goes in this type of order:

header (include or require)
login check (if you want that level of security on your site)
body (whatever page you want to display)
footer (if needed/wanted, also include or require)

phpfreaks.com
and codemonkey.com
are also great places for tutorials and snippets!