Java vs PHP debate

Newrules

Why people prefer these days prefer php over java
What some strenghts and weakness of both systems
Lets brainstorm

NewRules

Newrules

what, no one qualified enough to answer this
cannot believe

greg252

Are you talking about java server pages or client-side java applets?

Newrules

superwormy

Its all a matter of preference / what you're using it for / what you are comfortable using / coding style / what your boss wants / what you can afford / etc.

And this is not a General Help question, it belongs in the Echo Lounge.

Newrules

WHats some strenghts and weakness of both systems
came on, there must be someone here that know their shit, those webforums always have

NewRules

laserlight

PHP isnt really a system in the usual sense since it's a web scripting language.

What exactly do you mean by Java?
JSP as greg252 mentioned, or...?

stolzyboy

Originally posted by Newrules
sp

as he said sp (server pages)

and btw Newrules, watch the language, we don't need that type of language here, may folks here are young and we don't want their parents to get upset when/if they see language like that

please edit your post

Newrules

Hey stolzyboy. Whats up.

Maybe I am just coming across too agressive.
Its hard to tell the impact you projecting.
Anyway.
The thing is, I decided to help a small business near where I live.
I was talking with this one guy.
He wants to change all systems from mysql-php to jsp-postgres.
I saw some good features on postgres so we pretty much in favor of changing database system. Even if it means losing some speed.
About changing php, well I like php a little bit but I am not sure jsp well do a good job as php does.
Besides, everything out there is php.
Including this forum.
I dont generally 'follow the crowd' but I DO see the potential of the language.

planetsim

Java is a good Language to learn. But if anyone is considering doing JSP, look out its much stricter than PHP so sloppy code is non acceptable.. I think thats a reason for people using PHP, most programmers are lazy, and something that is easy and quick, and does the same thing as Strict and hard than its an easy option to take.

BuzzLY

I am not sure specifically what the differences are. However, I can say that I think it is a bad idea to change technologies without know exactly why you are changing. For instance, if there is something specific you are trying to accomplish, PHP/MySQL can't pull it off, and JSP can, then that's a good reason to change.

If you have "heard good things" about JSP and are changing because you are trying to stay on top of current trends... DON'T DO IT! You are just asking for trouble.

Bottom line: if PHP/MySQL is doing everything you need it to, and the system is working fine, leave it alone. You mother was right -- "if you pick at it, you'll just make it worse!"

goldbug

Or PHP/PostgreSQL, for those who go that route 🙂

dopp

I was about to type that. "Why not use PHP and Postgres?"

goldbug

Yeah, quit playing around with your stored procedures, triggers, and views! Pay attention! 🙂

I'm only kidding, of course 🙂

dopp

Though MySQL is only a few hops/skips/jumps away from fully implementing PostgresSQL functions. Particularly the use of transactions. Mmmm. Transactions...