I want to learn another language...

[jebster]

I know PHP.. kinda.. well enough for what I need it for! Now I want to learn a language that I could make "real" programs with! I'm not the brightest person so what are some languages like this? C++? Thanks 😃

[stolzyboy]

Yeah, there is C and diff. versions of C, there is Pascal, Fortran, Visual Basic, Basic, Cobol, etc...

There are many to choose from, here is an alphabetical list of languages and their descriptions.

[bad76]

Hi,
i think is depending from platform.

In window machine i think the better is C++ (borland for visual, ms for opengl & console...)

In linux c++ is GCC. There are porting from builder and msc++ (like qt or kdesdk...) but GCC is portable on every linux machine.

IF you want code for all this, you have to choice JAVA 🙁

PHP, for me is max of liberties. You can do anything in hundred different way.
The first (c/c++), instead, is a little step from php, only difference is declaration of var and a LOT of function less. But there are even much liberties.
The second(JAVA) is the other side of php: declare, declare, declare. Only object and not liberties. It's dream of any your boss 😃 and a LOT of function more (no boss, yes boss i'm saying "class", not function, ok...he hear always my key! 😃)

Another language? better php 😃

[BuzzLY]

If you want to learn a new language, and want to stay ahead of technology, then I recommend C# (C-Sharp). That's what I'm going to tackle next when I have the time.

Here are a couple of sites to get you started in that direction:

http://www.csharpfriends.com/
http://www.cshrp.net/

[stolzyboy]

Originally posted by BuzzLY
That's what I'm going to tackle next when I have the time.

That gonna be any time soon Buzz!!!

I never have time to do anything lately!

[Elizabeth]

Buzz, I thought you were going to learn ASP 😉

-Elizabeth

[stolzyboy]

Originally posted by Elizabeth
Buzz, I thought you were going to learn ASP 😉

-Elizabeth

NOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!! Don't do it, you'll hate yourself for doing it! It makes you chant Microsoft, Microsoft, over and over again in your sleep!

Anyway, it is pretty easy to learn! Just different syntax!

[jebster]

Originally posted by BuzzLY
If you want to learn a new language, and want to stay ahead of technology, then I recommend C# (C-Sharp). That's what I'm going to tackle next when I have the time.

Here are a couple of sites to get you started in that direction:

http://www.csharpfriends.com/
http://www.cshrp.net/

Sounds interesting! What do you all need when programing with such a language? A compiler? If so does it cost anything?

And whats a good book for it? Is THIS a good one? It seems to be rated good!

[BuzzLY]

Well... If I have to use ASP, I'd rather use C#, but if I get the job I'm campaigning for (knock on wood-patterned particle board), I won't have a choice -- they are a Microsoft shop. But... whatever puts bread on the table, right?

Of course, that will never take the place of PHP in my heart 🙂

And no, I won't have any time soon to learn C#. Not until the end of the year, anyway 🙂

[goldbug]

Originally posted by jebster
Sounds interesting! What do you all need when programing with such a language? A compiler? If so does it cost anything?

Technically, you can do C# and .NET development for free using the .NET SDK downloadable from Microsoft's site. However, if you are just starting out, and don't really know much about the .NET framework or C# for that matter, Visual Studio .NET is indispensable. Look around, lots of .NET windows apps/C# books have trial versions (60 day) of VS.NET on dvds inside.

[jebster]

Originally posted by goldbug
Technically, you can do C# and .NET development for free using the .NET SDK downloadable from Microsoft's site. However, if you are just starting out, and don't really know much about the .NET framework or C# for that matter, Visual Studio .NET is indispensable. Look around, lots of .NET windows apps/C# books have trial versions (60 day) of VS.NET on dvds inside.

My DVD drive doesn't work! How much does the full version cost?

[goldbug]

HAHAH, thats great,....

How many children can you sell?

[jebster]

Originally posted by goldbug
HAHAH, thats great,....

How many children can you sell?

Cost that much eh?

[jayant]

Originally posted by jebster
Cost that much eh?

not that much but THAT much

[jebster]

Originally posted by jayant
not that much but THAT much

Dang!

So I'm just suppose to use trials then LOL? I guess that could work!

EDIT
Visual Studio .NET 2003 Professional $1,079 US
Visual Studio .NET 2003 Enterprise Developer $1,799 US
Visual Studio .NET 2003 Enterprise Architect $2,499 US

Ouch

[goldbug]

Yeah, that seems pricey, but just be glad you don't do 3D modeling for a living.

Try a package like Maya Unlimited: $6999

[BuzzLY]

Be thankful you don't have to buy Vignette Storyserver. Can run upwards of $250,000. That's not a typo. One Quarter of a Million Dollars.

[planetsim]

looks at bank account and esitimates how many life times itd take to pay it off

[jayant]

In any case, Maya has a PLE (personal learning edition) version, that has all functionality of Maya Unlimited. just that a watermark will come in anything u develop
+ the data format wont be same as commercial one.

but Maya PLE is free. => they like developers

[bad76]

Originally posted by jebster
I know PHP.. kinda.. well enough for what I need it for! Now I want to learn a language that I could make "real" programs with!

And all this with c# ?!? Good luck.