Career in doubt

Sxooter

The CIO where I work just said we're going to probably go to .net, and referred to Linux and the rest of Open source as "shareware"

Should I be looking for a new job? Methinks yes.

stolzyboy

I think so, unless you wanna hang up your PHP hat?

Does your CIO know what they are getting into, does he really know what .NET is used for, or is he jumping on the bandwagon, cuz M$ has something new coming out?

Sxooter

bandwagon. Someone mentioned everyone getting on the "same boat" and I immediately thought "not if it's the friggin' Titanic!"

dar-k

Do yourself a favor and get out if you can.

LordShryku

Do you know ASP? And is the job worth keeping?

Doug_G

.NET is a great environment to work in. If you're interested and the company will get you up to speed I think you'll enjoy what you can do with .NET

LordShryku

Well, knowing how much he knows and enjoys Postgres, I'd say he's going to hate .NET....

n00854180t

.Net is a joke. Sounds like another person got sucked into the MS propaganda vortex. Sxooter, sorry to hear it.

piersk

Although it's not .NET, I work with ASP and I've still found time to do my own thing with PHP in my spare time.

It doesn't hurt to add another feather to your bow. I say don't be hasty, stick around for a bit. Give it some time to make sure you definately don't like it, maybe learn a few things at your company's expense (suggest that you need to go on a course or two 😉 ) and if you're sure it's not your thing, then jump ship.

LordShryku

I can already hear drawmack yelling at you for that comment.......

stolzyboy

i guess .NET has it's place, but it really isn't for the web, it is mainly used to be able to intermingle .NET applications (but yes, you can, and it will be used on the web, there are some neat features), like the newer office versions, other M$ products, etc... PHP is going to beat it hands down in the web department, since it is mainly a framework, don't confuse ASP with .NET either, they are totally different things, and yes there is ASP.NET, and that in itself is different than ASP

all in all, if you are worried that the webworld is gonna be swallowed up by .NET or ASP.NET, it isn't PHP will be around for a long time

piersk

Why should he? It's a perfectly sensible comment. And Sxooter might get some free training out of it.

Also, you have to bear in mind that the company may look at their situation in 6 months to a years time and decide that .NET's not for them and go back to OS stuff. I know some people whose companies have done that.

Please note that stolzy wrote his post whilst I was writing mine. The above bit is in response to shryku.

keith73

unless you can find a good job doing things the open source way, stay where you are and learn what they want you to learn. you may hate it but at least you'll have a job.

Take it from someone who was out of work for 6 months last year, all the want ads want microsoft technologies. I lucked out finding a job that specifically wanted php and mysql skills.

keith

LordShryku

I've just heard the rant before, and I got to say that I agree with mack in the fact that you need the right tool to fit the job. I really don't know what Sxooter's working with, but just writing off .NET as a "joke" wouldn't be my choice. Now don't get me wrong, I'm an avid OSS advocate, but when I'm using Microsoft products on a Microsoft OS, in most cases, a Microsoft solution will fit the bill. All about "the right tool for the right job"...

Doug_G

i guess .NET has it's place, but it really isn't for the web, ...

You must have used a different version of .NET than everyone else 🙂 A goodly chunk of the .NET framework is web-oriented.

n00854180t

I have to agree with the above though. You might as well stick with and learn as much as you can. Meanwhile keep your eye out for any better job that you can grab when you feel your current job stagnating.

stolzyboy

Originally posted by Doug G
You must have used a different version of .NET than everyone else 🙂 A goodly chunk of the .NET framework is web-oriented.

sorry, meant "mainly" for the web, what i was trying to get across is that it is M$'s way of getting everything into one bundle and the ability for everything to tie together in a nice way, they didn't create it mainly for the web, ie to do away with ASP, and yes it will be used for the web, even when in conjunction with other .NET apps, but it will not likely be the end all be all of programs for the web

piersk

Originally posted by stolzyboy
but it will not likely be the end all be all of programs for the web

True, but then to be completely honest, neither is PHP.

stolzyboy

Originally posted by piersk
True, but then to be completely honest, neither is PHP.

it sure isn't and there never really will be, but the maturest and the closest will prevail and it won't be any form of .NET

n00854180t

I don't think much of anything coming from MS could be considered mature. I seems to me that the most useful and well made web languages get used the most, and I know I see much more PHP/Linux/MySQL ect than MS stuff.