cookies vs. somthing thats work's

Chrysanthus

Hi i wounder what is best....

if i wanna make a loggin page and keep track of users where they can be or not be what should i use for function (php and mysql do i use)...

cookis are good but tha means that the user must have cookie session file enabel when looged or it wount work i wanna make it function on what ever browser he/she is using...

All tips are good only exept the bad ones are not said..

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Thats where SESSIONS comes in handy!
Store the values to a session, read more in the manual:
http://no2.php.net/session

Chrysanthus

yeah but dose't that make a cookie like info fil... or dose that session file only reside on the server...

i have work on session syntax no i wille and i havent get it to wor yet.

is it possible to insert the value of the session file into a mysql insted of useing the session.save_path "/tmp" extension

sow that i makes a quesry insted of a session... or is that the same thing..??

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Hi there,
when using session, all the session data is stored on the server - so it does not matter if the user got cookies enabeld or not!

You can write a script and store the data in a sql database, but it's sound like it is a lot of work. The problem is to identify the user. You can track the ip address and use that, but then you must decide if there should be a time-out on that user, so that if the same person visit you site every day - if that shoud count as one visit or one visit every day.

I have written a lot of visitor trackers and login scripts, and I think session works just grate!

Weedpacket

I've lost count of the number of times I've said this....

PHP's session-handling uses cookies stored on the client's machine to store the session ID when the client allows session cookies to be stored; when the client doesn't allow cookies, it puts the session ID in the URL. But really, this is gone over in much more detail in the manual.

The Manual
There are two methods to propagate a session id:

Cookies
URL parameter

The session module supports both methods. Cookies are optimal, but because they are not always available, we also provide an alternative way. The second method embeds the session id directly into URLs.

And you can use PHP's default method of storing session data in files on the server, or you can write handlers so that PHP will use a database instead.

superwormy

Weedpacket is so right.

To track users, you can either use cookies, or you can pass a unique ID through the URL and any POST forms. Those are you're ONLY two choices, however there are a variety of ways to implement them.

IP address IS NOT a good way to do this. Proxies, NAT/LANs, AOL users, and a number of other things make using IP addresses not practical AT ALL. So DON'T DO IT!

Chrysanthus

okey cookies can i skip

thanks for the descussion!
but what is the fastes way of theys...

a supid question

How do i now what users are in the sight or not in ? to see and check if the are any sessions aktive i folder?

or do i combine sessions sid in url and loggin to a mysql?

Weedpacket

Searching the forums with a phrase like users online will help.

Arc

I always use Session cookies.

If the user is too paranoid to use cookies, then to hell with them I say.

Chrysanthus

cookies with session are okey for me.
but my sight is not for me but for other users sow

My idée is for people how just want to serf and do not have any experience of session and cookies and some browsers by default don't disable the cookie function.

Sow my idée is to give all user independent on with browser you are using able access my Webb sight on I easy on way...