Originally posted by goldbug
WYS is rarely WYG.

Heh, kind of like most things in life 🙂

    well this is nice, now I don't feel like THAT much of a poser for using DW... 😃

      No one can say that you are a bad developer (or a poser) just cos you use a WYSIWYG editor.

        <blatant attempt to prove piersk wrong>
        you are a bad developer (or a poser) just cos you use a WYSIWYG editor.
        </blatant attempt to prove piersk wrong>
        hehehehehe 😃

          I use a color coded HTML editor, but it is all done by hand, NO WYSIWYG for me...

          Oh, I use HomeSite btw...

            Edit+ over here and Pico in emergencies ("VI should stand for Virtually Impossible", my dad would say - I haven't had any huge urge to learn it).

            Edit+ has some tools for the novice coder and some flexibility for the advanced coder (and because of both, I've really liked using it). So far I've converted 3 web dev shops over to Edit+ (first one was on Frontpage, 2nd one was using the IDE for Visual C++ to code HTML and ASP, and the third was using VI and Notepad).

            So far I've done Java, Assembler, C/C++, PHP, Perl, and ASP from within Edit+. Even had Edit+ compiling Java, assembling Assembler, and bouncing SQL queries against MS SQL and having the results pop back in Edit+).

            Of course, it all boils down to using the right tool for the right job. I've played with DW before (version 3) and it completely and totally turned me off to WYSIWYG editors. But if you're able to produce with the tool, then by all means, keep using it!

              Originally posted by goldbug
              UltraEdit/Quanta/JEdit for me (depends on platform/OS, obviously)

              WYS is rarely WYG.

              WYSISLWYGIYAL

                WYSISLWYGIYAL

                what you see ??? what you get if you are lazy

                am i close?

                  what you see is sometimes like what you get if you are lazy

                    Originally posted by piersk
                    what you see is what you get if you are lazy

                    there's a lone L in there

                      Should not be doing this, but eh..

                      have a look at what frontpage can do for you

                      I was asked for feedback by the builder.. he replied he could start over if he wanted to implement my suggestions..

                      J.

                        Another good reason why not to use FP. Thank god we don't use that anymore...

                          boy, those are some good looking sites!!

                            I use Dreamweaver MX 2k4, though not the WYSIWYG aspect of it... Probably overkill for some simple syntax highlighting and intelliText, but I like it.

                              FrontPage is a stupid piece of crap that messes up my code and puts dirty HTML all over the place.

                              I do not use wysiwyg. I use Crimson Editor, sometimes Notepad (I'm on windows). Crimson Editor has highlighting and bracket underlining and that's all I need.

                                Originally posted by Merve
                                Crimson Editor has highlighting and bracket underlining and that's all I need.

                                Just wondering, am I the only one that is addicted to block/column-mode editing? 🙂

                                Imho, that's what makes or breaks a good editor for me. 🙂

                                  Originally posted by goldbug
                                  block/column-mode editing? 🙂

                                  😕 What do you mean by this?

                                    All characters are the same width so when you have indenting it's easy to see where all your conditions and loops begin and end; I think?

                                      oh yeah,

                                      if ( i didn't have a monospace font for coding, ) {  
                                      
    I would not be happy.  
                                      
    I'm kind of neurotic about {
        having everything lined up 
        and indented just right.
    }
}

                                      But I would bet that most coders are this way too... Isn't it just easier that way?

                                        Personally, I prefer the Broken Source Method but that's just me 🙂

                                        And I definitely agree with goldbug- block editing rules. Great for debugging as you can easily comment out a whole block of code with one click.