Do you use a WYSIWYG editor!
Evrsoft 1st Page 2000.
I think it has a WYSIWYG side but I have never used it, so I don't know for sure.
I find it helps with readablility by using colored code tags and it helps with error correction by having the lines numbered. Plus for those tags that you use only once in a great while and don't recall exactly how that tag is coded you can just select to insert the tag and it will bring up a screen that will let you change the particulars. It also has some nice shortcut keys, if you wanted to add something like bolding you just select the text you wish to bold and hit CTRL + B and it adds the bold tag and if you wish to move a line of code you just highlight it and drag it to were you want it.
And the best thing is it's FREE!!!
I have tryed using Dream Weaver, Front Page, and a few others but they are all absolute junk. Once they expire (when a new version of PHP, HTML, ASP, or whatever code is released) you have to wait for a new version to be released and then pay multiple hundreds of dollars to get it and untill you get the new release the old software will insist that your code is wrong or in some cases it is helpful enough to change it for you. :mad:
Also a very good progam that I use when using a Linux computer is Quanta.
I think the thread is drifting towards this one. "Do you use a WYSIWYG editor"? "Yes" "No" "There's an editor I don't know if it's WYSIWYG or not".
i use dreamweaver mainly because I can switch between the code and the WYSIWYG part easilly so I can do all my coding and the then swicth over over for huge forms or colour picking. I think more pll should use Dreamweaver more becuase you can code away and not even touch the WYSIWYG part. Just because it has a WYSIWYG doesn't mean that your anyless of a coder. If you don't use the WYSIWYG then it doesn't have WYSIWYG does it
Originally posted by Megahertza
I think more pll should use Dreamweaver more becuase you can code away and not even touch the WYSIWYG part.
Wouldn't it be a lot cheaper to not buy Dreamweaver in the first place and not touch the WYSIWYG part for free? Some mistake, surely?
For my part, I've yet to see a WYSIWYG editor that does a decent job of handling a layout's semantics - and all too many that make a dog's breakfast of the syntax while they're at it.
Ah Dreamweaver, I cant believe people still use WYSIWYG Editors like weedpacket said none control the semantics of layout. Text Editors with Syntax Highlighting are the best things for development however I wont go into Editors theres already a huge topic on it.
I use VI. If I'm in Windows I use WinVI or SSH into a box that has it installed. 
-Sys
I only use VI when SSH'ing or if i need like 1 thing changed other than that I cannot stand VI. Anyway this should be in the Editors Thread.
I use Dreamweaver. I'm in the middle of coding by hand and using the WYSIWYG functions. Basically, I design the page graphically, then add all the active code, then tidy the whole thing up by hand. It's laborious, but it works for me.
I can't even remember if I've actually ever responded to this thread, but if I had I'm sure I would have said that I was just using a text editor.
However, recently I switched to TextMate (http://www.macromates.com) and find it to be absolutely the greatest editor. I've even stopped drafting documents in Word...using this instead.
I've barely scraped the surface on what this thing can do, but oh well. It is still a beta but has a very active group of people cranking away on this every day.
Mac only...sorry...
Looks nifty. Unfortunately I am still using OS 10.2 (it requires 10.3). 
Someone on these forums said that new php'rs would eventually outgrow embedding php in html and just write completely in php. Well not only did I start doing that but now I am getting irritated with Go Live (which I used to think was the best thing ever). I think the script should handle everything now, including layout!
So what does anyone think of Zend Studio. Worth it? :bemused:
I'm a newbie here pretty much
DW for html based sites - but 95% hand coded -
at least I get a rough preview of what I'm doing, though I'm forever hitting F12 to see it in IE
I would probably save a lot of time if I could learn to use DW properly - like is there any point using templates?
then my php based work I do all in PHP Expert Editor which someone recommended - I'd like to find a better text editor - its find and change sucks - though otherwise it colours things up ok (!)
I usually switch to DW for a hefty bit of f&c
and I'd really like a tool with some debugging built in - no idea where to start on that though - just something simple to show me variable values to save echo $this echo $that
mark c
sysera wrote:I use VI. If I'm in Windows I use WinVI or SSH into a box that has it installed.
-Sys
same here...SSH into my server and create/edit in VI
im partial to dreamweaver just b/c it isnt frontpage and b/c of how it handles "sites"... but ultraedit32 is my "mobile" coding environment or if im PuTTY'd into my slax box I use pico
I use Dreamweaver 8 for my HTML coding... then I take that code, copy+paste it into a database and do the rest either in DW code mode (I like the colour-coding!!!) or in notepad (it opens fast)... However, with DW, I find that WYS is nearly always WYG (amazingly)
I definitely like DW 8 
Sounds like there are a bunch of Dreamweaver fans. I don't know, maybe I'm to cheap or to poor to spring for the big bucks, but I would really love to have the entire suite. Even on eBay, the commercial version is pretty pricey. My son is a college student and I could get him to buy me the Education Version, but I kind of feel like that's cheating. I probably really qualify to use the Ed version though since in the past 5 years, I have not worked on 1 commercial project from my home computer. They have all been for schools or missions or church.
At work, money is way to tight in my group. Everyone here uses either notepad or NoteTab Pro, except me. I use HomeSite or PHP Designer. That's only because my previous group (had more money) bought me HomeSite 4.5. I would love to upgrade to HomeSite 5 and I guess I could spring for the $25 myself, but it's the principal of the thing.
Notepad. I'm a primitive.
adavis wrote:Sounds like there are a bunch of Dreamweaver fans. I don't know, maybe I'm to cheap or to poor to spring for the big bucks, but I would really love to have the entire suite. Even on eBay, the commercial version is pretty pricey. My son is a college student and I could get him to buy me the Education Version, but I kind of feel like that's cheating. I probably really qualify to use the Ed version though since in the past 5 years, I have not worked on 1 commercial project from my home computer. They have all been for schools or missions or church.
At work, money is way to tight in my group. Everyone here uses either notepad or NoteTab Pro, except me. I use HomeSite or PHP Designer. That's only because my previous group (had more money) bought me HomeSite 4.5. I would love to upgrade to HomeSite 5 and I guess I could spring for the $25 myself, but it's the principal of the thing.
I use Dreamweaver a lot, partially because it's what I'm used to. I've been using it since Dreamweaver 3 came out way back when, and it just does what I need it to do, for most projects. I'm sure I've saved enough time over the course of my work that it's paid for itself. So yes, it seems price-y but even a few minutes here and there really add up. I don't use many of the features that come with it, so I'm sure if I took the time to mess around with other things, it'd be even better. The things that save me the most time are the auto FTP on save, the find/replace and the shortcuts like inserting images and tables and such.
However, I do use Notepad, TextPad and PhpEd as well - depending on what I'm doing. For simple HTML stuff I'll use DW or Notepad/TextPad. For more complex PHP stuff, I'm starting to use PhpED because of all the nice debugging, reference and advanced search functions built in. I'm finding PhpED is nice for deciphering and sorting out Other People's Code as well, because you can quickly locate files and the origins of classes and functions and such. Very nice, and it has a TON of other time savers too. I just did a review on PhpED and I'll have to admit I was pretty impressed with all the stuff it can do. And again, I've only scratched the surface so I'm sure it will pay for itself.
I became an avid fan of Eclipse for a while, and I really love it but came across a problem I haven't been able to solve with any graphical IDE yet. I want my IDE to be version control aware so I can graphically browse and compare different versions of files, merge, branch, tag and generally do everything I can with my version control system. However, I also want to be able to save directly to a remote server so that I can view changes to a file live on the dev site without having to go through the version control system. If I have to commit and then update my test area every time I want to view a change on the test site I get loads of tiny meaningless commits in the version history. I can achieve the save to remote server excellently with any KDE editor (kate for example) using the fish kio slave. I thought I could achieve both with Eclipse a few weeks ago using the sshfs filesytem client (like nfs or Windows SMB/CIFS but over ssh) and mounting a remote path locally then checking out the cvs repository into that path. However, I quickly discovered that Eclipse goes mental with filesystem access when dealing with larger projects and eventually dies. I never traced where the problem was starting but sshfs never crashed so I can only imagine it was in Eclipse somewhere. Kate, I can do the save directly to the server but I can't integrate with version control (as far as I know). I can use the built in console to log in to the server and interact with version control but this isn't really what I'd call integration and certainly doesn't give me a graphical interface or diff capability.
So, I come finally to the humbe VIM. Now, I hope, you can see that I'm not just stuck to the terminal because I think it's somehow cooler to strain my eyes staring at green on black all day, or that I can't be bothered to spend a little time learning a new interface. I would dearly like to use a graphical IDE and have tried hard to do so but I just haven't found a way yet. On the other hand, with VIM I can save directly to a remote file (although I wouldn't ever need to as it's on every *nix server I've ever come accross). With the help of a few plugins I can integrate directly with version control from within the editor (no graphical merging or branching but diffs and commits are the important bits). There's an awesome community around it, an active IRC channel and an excellent site which give you access to literally thousands of syntax files, hints and scripts. Everything from sourcecode browsing (like a graphical IDE) to advanced tag matching (very cool for messy html code) to the slightly less usefull but absolutely necesarry 100% VIM tetris.
I'm sorry but, for the moment at least, VIM RULZ!!
Right now I use Eclipse for everything (not just PHP). I did try the new Zend PHP plugin for Eclipse, but I got too many errors so switched back to PHP Eclipse which does the job fine.