yea, oiops i thought thats what it was, my bad

    9 days later

    Originally posted by planetsim
    I did 🙁 but someone else has too..

    My company insists on us using Frontpage to make webpages because:
    a: They then don't have to pay for Dreamweaver
    b: The server admins don't have to install the Macromedia server extensions
    c: Frontpage is the bestest besty thing in the history of best things.

    I was quite stunned that Microsoft managed to make Frontpage 2002 even worse than 2000.

    What's even worse is that I use it at home too....sob

    p.s. I just voted for Frontpage snicker

      7 months later

      it doesn't have ftp, but NOTEPAD2 rocks. colorizes code for easy readibility, is highly customizable, and has wildcard search. i dig it. it also happens to be FREEWARE!

      i do wish it had multi-file search capability...i don't think it does that.

        i have yet to see an organization standardize on frontpage. usually, just having it on your resume as a skill results in the resume visiting the trash can.

        since php creates dynamic web pages i do not see how someone could really use any WYSIWYG editor. what you want is an editor that can debug and provide help with PHP functions.

          Originally posted by pohopo
          what you want is an editor that can debug and provide help with PHP functions.

          Like PHPBuilderEd 😃

            Evrsoft 1st Page 2000.

            I think it has a WYSIWYG side but I have never used it, so I don't know for sure.

            I find it helps with readablility by using colored code tags and it helps with error correction by having the lines numbered. Plus for those tags that you use only once in a great while and don't recall exactly how that tag is coded you can just select to insert the tag and it will bring up a screen that will let you change the particulars. It also has some nice shortcut keys, if you wanted to add something like bolding you just select the text you wish to bold and hit CTRL + B and it adds the bold tag and if you wish to move a line of code you just highlight it and drag it to were you want it.

            And the best thing is it's FREE!!!

            I have tryed using Dream Weaver, Front Page, and a few others but they are all absolute junk. Once they expire (when a new version of PHP, HTML, ASP, or whatever code is released) you have to wait for a new version to be released and then pay multiple hundreds of dollars to get it and untill you get the new release the old software will insist that your code is wrong or in some cases it is helpful enough to change it for you. :mad:

            Also a very good progam that I use when using a Linux computer is Quanta.

              I think the thread is drifting towards this one. "Do you use a WYSIWYG editor"? "Yes" "No" "There's an editor I don't know if it's WYSIWYG or not".

                i use dreamweaver mainly because I can switch between the code and the WYSIWYG part easilly so I can do all my coding and the then swicth over over for huge forms or colour picking. I think more pll should use Dreamweaver more becuase you can code away and not even touch the WYSIWYG part. Just because it has a WYSIWYG doesn't mean that your anyless of a coder. If you don't use the WYSIWYG then it doesn't have WYSIWYG does it

                  a month later

                  Originally posted by Megahertza
                  I think more pll should use Dreamweaver more becuase you can code away and not even touch the WYSIWYG part.

                  Wouldn't it be a lot cheaper to not buy Dreamweaver in the first place and not touch the WYSIWYG part for free? Some mistake, surely?

                  For my part, I've yet to see a WYSIWYG editor that does a decent job of handling a layout's semantics - and all too many that make a dog's breakfast of the syntax while they're at it.

                    9 days later

                    Ah Dreamweaver, I cant believe people still use WYSIWYG Editors like weedpacket said none control the semantics of layout. Text Editors with Syntax Highlighting are the best things for development however I wont go into Editors theres already a huge topic on it.

                      4 days later

                      I use VI. If I'm in Windows I use WinVI or SSH into a box that has it installed. 🙂
                      -Sys

                        I only use VI when SSH'ing or if i need like 1 thing changed other than that I cannot stand VI. Anyway this should be in the Editors Thread.

                          I use Dreamweaver. I'm in the middle of coding by hand and using the WYSIWYG functions. Basically, I design the page graphically, then add all the active code, then tidy the whole thing up by hand. It's laborious, but it works for me.

                            a month later

                            I can't even remember if I've actually ever responded to this thread, but if I had I'm sure I would have said that I was just using a text editor.

                            However, recently I switched to TextMate (http://www.macromates.com) and find it to be absolutely the greatest editor. I've even stopped drafting documents in Word...using this instead.

                            I've barely scraped the surface on what this thing can do, but oh well. It is still a beta but has a very active group of people cranking away on this every day.

                            Mac only...sorry...

                              4 days later

                              Looks nifty. Unfortunately I am still using OS 10.2 (it requires 10.3). 🙁

                              Someone on these forums said that new php'rs would eventually outgrow embedding php in html and just write completely in php. Well not only did I start doing that but now I am getting irritated with Go Live (which I used to think was the best thing ever). I think the script should handle everything now, including layout!

                              So what does anyone think of Zend Studio. Worth it? :bemused:

                                9 days later

                                I'm a newbie here pretty much

                                DW for html based sites - but 95% hand coded -
                                at least I get a rough preview of what I'm doing, though I'm forever hitting F12 to see it in IE
                                I would probably save a lot of time if I could learn to use DW properly - like is there any point using templates?

                                then my php based work I do all in PHP Expert Editor which someone recommended - I'd like to find a better text editor - its find and change sucks - though otherwise it colours things up ok (!)

                                I usually switch to DW for a hefty bit of f&c

                                and I'd really like a tool with some debugging built in - no idea where to start on that though - just something simple to show me variable values to save echo $this echo $that

                                mark c

                                  9 months later
                                  sysera wrote:

                                  I use VI. If I'm in Windows I use WinVI or SSH into a box that has it installed. 🙂
                                  -Sys

                                  same here...SSH into my server and create/edit in VI

                                    5 months later

                                    im partial to dreamweaver just b/c it isnt frontpage and b/c of how it handles "sites"... but ultraedit32 is my "mobile" coding environment or if im PuTTY'd into my slax box I use pico