Web Design . Where can i find a good tutorial?

no_maam

Where can i find a tutorial about designing a good looking site from scratch. And i mean a serious site . I want to learn how to set up a layout for the site using tables , graphics, etc.
Thanks!

goldbug

Don't use tables for layout.
"Good" design is subjective, and often tied with creativity. If you follow a tutorial that is based on aesthetics, your site will be unoriginal, and look like a crappy clone.

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no_maam

Should i use css? I still need a good tutorial. Im just starting. I have the basics in html , but i want to see how profesionals do it. So a step by step lesson would bve great.

pyro

Yes, use CSS. I don't know of any step-by-step guides to making your whole site. Tutorials tend to hit specific aspects. Take a look at the articles at http://www.alistapart.com/ (though they are geared toward professionals). You may want to pick up books such as "designing with web standards" by Jeffrey Zeldman and "Eric Meyer on CSS" by Eric Meyer.

no_maam

Thanks, pyro . I need something litle "less advanced", if you know awhat i mean.

pyro

The books would probably be a good bet, but also see http://www.w3schools.com/css/

piersk

Try something like Webmonkey

no_maam

Thats more usefull, thanks.

Merve

Check out a book from your local library on web design...they're a good place to start.

no_maam

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Thank you, I would have never thinked of that.:eek:
I need a tutorial on how to do it in practice. Like : first make that , then that, etc.

Merve

Get books on CSS, or books about XHTML and CSS working together, because some books teach "Microsoft CSS", which involves changing the colour of your scrollbars (it's not valid CSS, but changing the colour and style of form elements is).

Or you can learn CSS how I learnt it...by picking up bits and pieces from here and there (not recommended 🙁)

As Goldbug's signature indicates, the road to hell is paved with nested tables and spacer gifs. Nested tables are okay as long they are being used to display tabular data, and not to lay out a website. Spacer gifs are simply unacceptable (though thankfully they are not too common).

Search for CSS tutorials on the web, or search on CSS layouts. You'll learn a lot just by looking around....

planetsim

Sort of extending on merve.

Why isnt it recommended. I learnt CSS only by look at website source and play around with it. I recommend this sort of way, most good developers learnt this way, remember books are good but if taken in the wrong way the book will always be required when doing something and you'll never really learn anything.

pyro

One thing to remember when/if you learn from someone else's source - 99% of the websites out there aren't worth learning from...

Merve

What pyro is saying is exactly right. That's why my CSS is crap 😃...but I bookmark cool links that have any cool CSS...that sort of helps...but you have to read at least one or two tutorials to get started...trust me on this one...

DXL

if u want a very long, but good tutorial, fit for beginners, check out this

thats where i learned HTML, but if u want to learn PHP easily, go get the book called:

"Sams Teach Yourself PHP in 24 Hours" By: Matt Zandstra

planetsim

Suppose to be a good book that if not the sitepoint books are excellent get the one buy Kevin Yank. I borrowed it just for the sake to see what it was like and trust me its a good book