hmmm my college education cost me $50,000 and now I'm supposed to take the things that I spent all that money to learn how to do and give them away.

    Well that's why you put a "donate" button on your site! I'll bet you could easily get atleast $50,000 a year from donations! :p

      okay, so how often do you use those donate buttons, and more over how often to you donate anything substantial?

        I don't, I was joking 😉 hence the :p I don't spend or donate money over the internet, if however the the site owner was near me I would probably leave a donation in their mail box.

          Sorry jeb it's just that people who feel everything should be open source really piss me off.

          Show me one other college educated individual who is expected to give away their knowledge.

          Don't get me wrong open source is good I even offer some of it on my web-site, but to tell someone they should openeverything they write is just wrong.

            you can make it open-source and still charge for it...

              That leads to copying of the code for use in other projects without royalties...

                GPL says that if you use it in your project your project must have a gpl-compatible license

                  Originally posted by Moonglobe
                  you can make it open-source and still charge for it...

                  If it is open source and I sell it to person A, there is nothing to stop them from freely using it on other web sites without paying me.

                  Now since a lot of the stuff I do (we all do?) is the same thing my profit margin would be cut significantly on future projects, which would cause my rates to go up, which would cuase a decrease in new clientele, which would cause my rates to go up, which would cause a decrease in new clientele.....

                  Don't misunderstand me, I'm all for open-source. I'm all against someone proseletising to me, or anyone else, about how I should open my source.

                  Just because I close my source, and sell my work instead of giving it away does not make me anything except able to pay my bills.

                    Originally posted by Moonglobe
                    GPL says that if you use it in your project your project must have a gpl-compatible license

                    And the only code you have to open up is code that is already open, or code that is derivative of code that is already open.

                    In other words, if I write an encryption module that is stand alone and link that in with the open-source mysql engine then I can sell my database with native encryption and tout that it is compatible with all the free mysql tools. I also do not have to open up my encryption module but only the calls to that module.

                      9 days later

                      Hi

                      I must sell this product and I search "how to" sell with low cost ..

                      I don't distribute this as open source

                      ?

                      thks

                      😉

                        If its PHP code you're selling, you will need to get crafty and look into using the Zend encoder or something like that. Otherwise you're PHP code will be easily copyable.

                          just use global search and replace to give all the functions names like f_x_1002
                          and all the variables names like v_1002
                          ans all the classes names like cls_1001

                          and then we'll see how easy it is to modify that code.

                            Originally posted by drawmack
                            just use global search and replace to give all the functions names like f_x_1002
                            and all the variables names like v_1002
                            ans all the classes names like cls_1001

                            and then we'll see how easy it is to modify that code.

                            Don't forget to chuck in a few functions like __() and variables like $ as well.

                              drawmack: You went to college to learn PHP? Which one? I was unaware such a course, let alone degree program, existed.

                              webstyler: Don't sell the scripts- that's a one time payoff. Sell the service of using, managing, updating and supporting the scripts. Or host them yourself and change people a monthly fee.

                                Originally posted by mikeatrpi
                                drawmack: You went to college to learn PHP? Which one? I was unaware such a course, let alone degree program, existed.

                                My guess is that he went to college and learned programming.

                                  Originally posted by mikeatrpi
                                  drawmack: You went to college to learn PHP? Which one? I was unaware such a course, let alone degree program, existed.

                                  webstyler: Don't sell the scripts- that's a one time payoff. Sell the service of using, managing, updating and supporting the scripts. Or host them yourself and change people a monthly fee.

                                  Weedpacket is correct, once you know programming theory you can code in any language, they are all pretty much the same just a matter of simple syntactic differences (except for prolog which we won't get into)

                                    If you're planning on selling PHP code you're dreaming.

                                    mikeatrpi is on the right track. People are not going to buy your code... but, people will pay for a fully integrated system. You're either going to have to integrate your system into their systems, or host a system to make any money.

                                    I think that's the main thing people don't understand about open source. If you make your code open source all you're doing is allowing another programmers to see and possibly use your code. People that are going to spend money for what you've developed are not interested in your code, they're interested in a system that will solve for whatever problem they are faced with. They also want you to integrate/host, and support it as well. That's where your code obtains value. The code itself is not going to make you money.

                                    There's a paradigm in the development world that says you can make money from simply programming. Unless you're programming for a company you're not going to make money by simply writing code. Back in the day this may have been true, but times have changed and are continually evolving. You're going to have to change the way you think about development if you want to keep up.

                                    What kind of systems have you developed that you're trying to sell anyway?

                                    $50,000 for a degree?! Good hell, what university did you go to?