Webshop, how to start?

vigour

Dear forum!

My goal is to build a really easy to use webshop. I'm not new when it comes to programming, but php is new to me. I want to use mysql + php as my tools. So I have a couple of questions:

Can I use frames with php and show different things of my webshop in different frames?

Can someone point me to a easy to understand and secure login script?

chyan

Can I use frames with php and show different things of my webshop in different frames?

of course you can

Can someone point me to a easy to understand and secure login script?

you can search it at phpbuilder code library

vigour

Originally posted by chyan
Can I use frames with php and show different things of my webshop in different frames?

of course you can

Can someone point me to a easy to understand and secure login script?

you can search it at phpbuilder code library

Thanks chyan

vigour

Can someone please explain this a little deeper for me? I saw it on another place in this forum. I'm most interested in the text 'design the site in html' and after that 'php'. Does this means that I use html as much as I can? And php only where it's needed? Is that the normal way to build a easy webshop for example? Below is a snippet of the text I read.

After designing the database its graphics time. Im not graphic designer, but a good way of creating your main design is to create the page and how its gonna look, then cut it up(I use Photoshop) not sure on what other people have but most have the feature of cutting the image.

Once you have graphics, design the site in html. This way you have the Graphics and HTML done, its only the php. Most newbies love having html code with there php code, eventually most grow out of it (yay).

Then its all php code the rest of the way.

chyan

you can build your all site with PHP , because you can make html tag with php example:

this is html code:

<html>
<body>
<h3>hello world</h3>
</body>
</html>

this is PHP code
<?
echo "<html>";
echo "<body>";
echo "<h3>hello world</h3>";
echo "</body>";
echo "</html>";
?>

both of html and php code above will output the same result

but you needed php as a server side programming , to make a interactive site like webshop, because you can't programming webshop site only with html, you need server side programming like PHP and a database application like mysql to make it

vigour

Originally posted by chyan
Can someone please explain this a little deeper for me? I saw it on another place in this forum. I'm most interested in the text 'design the site in html' and after that 'php'. Does this means that I use html as much as I can? And php only where it's needed?

you can build your all site with PHP , because you can make html tag with php example:

this is html code:

<html>
<body>
<h3>hello world</h3>
</body>
</html>

this is PHP code
<?
echo "<html>";
echo "<body>";
echo "<h3>hello world</h3>";
echo "</body>";
echo "</html>";
?>

both of html and php code above will output the same result

but you needed php as a server side programming , to make a interactive site like webshop, because you can't programming webshop site only with html, you need server side programming like PHP and a database application like mysql to make it

I have no problem with that. I know the difference between html and php. I used to work as a webdesigner. I do not have the php skill only. i understand that I can use only php, but that was not really what I asked about. I wonder what the text I read really mean? And if I understand it right it seems that I can make the html stuff finished first, before I start on the php. But I don't understand why?

chyan

I wonder what the text I read really mean? And if I understand it right it seems that I can make the html stuff finished first, before I start on the php. But I don't understand why?

what was you read? and where was you read it?

vigour

Go to this url and search for Planning and you will find it.

http://www.phpbuilder.com/board/showthread.php?s=&threadid=10245251

Megahertza

I looked at the topic, can you be more persific(can't spell), where in the topic are u talking about, anyway.... heres a hint. Forgive me if I'm way of topic
When I build websites I tend to make a HTML template and then place php in side the html where some pll may create the html tags through php.

I have seen many pages that work like this.....

<?php
// -- Then they use php to generate the rest of the page --//
?>

</body>
<?html>

I like to think of it as using frames

chyan

whatever you want to build the html first or you want to build with PHP from beginning, there is no problem actually
example i build all my site with php and i never encountered any problem with it

vigour

Originally posted by Megahertza
I looked at the topic, can you be more persific(can't spell), where in the topic are u talking about, anyway.... heres a hint. Forgive me if I'm way of topic
When I build websites I tend to make a HTML template and then place php in side the html where some pll may create the html tags through php.

I have seen many pages that work like this.....

<html>
<head>
<title>Main</title>
</head>
<body>

<?php
// -- Then they use php to generate the rest of the page --//
?>

</body>
<?html>

I like to think of it as using frames

Here is the text I'm talking about:

Then its all php code the rest of the way.

I wonder what it really mean...

Megahertza

Now i get ya. What he is saying is that you can design a webpage in html first and then introduce php and mysql into the site later. By doing this you are creating a template with a menu and a title, u leave the middle section blank with no content.

To get php to fill in the cotent you change links address to carry php variables...

example
MENU
<a href="index.php?id=1">Home</a>
<a href="index.php?id=2">Links</a>
<a href="index.php?id=3">Admin</a>

<?php
$id = $_GET['id'];
//- Includes For Main Links - Portal, Links and Tutorials ect -//
if ($id == 1) {include_once 'news.php'; } 
if ($id == 2) {include 'links.php';}
if ($id == 3) {include 'admin.php';}
?>

Php checks what the "ID" variable is and depending on what valuse it has it will include a file into the page.

vigour

Originally posted by Megahertza
Now i get ya. What he is saying is that you can design a webpage in html first and then introduce php and mysql into the site later. By doing this you are creating a template with a menu and a title, u leave the middle section blank with no content.

To get php to fill in the cotent you change links address to carry php variables...

example
MENU
<a href="index.php?id=1">Home</a>
<a href="index.php?id=2">Links</a>
<a href="index.php?id=3">Admin</a>
<?php
$id = $_GET['id'];
//- Includes For Main Links - Portal, Links and Tutorials ect -//
if ($id == 1) {include_once 'news.php'; } 
if ($id == 2) {include 'links.php';}
if ($id == 3) {include 'admin.php';}
?>
Php checks what the "ID" variable is and depending on what valuse it has it will include a file into the page. [/B]

Do you mean like this?

filename is: menu.html, content is:

<html>
<head>
<title>Main</title>
</head>
<body>
<a href="index.php?id=1">Home</a>
<a href="index.php?id=2">Links</a>
<a href="index.php?id=3">Admin</a>
</body>
<?html>

filename is: index.php, content is:

<?php
$id=$GET['id'];
//- Includes For Main Links - Portal, Links and Tutorials ect -//
if($id==1){include_once'news.php';}
if($id==2){include'links.php';}
if($id==3){include'admin.php';}
?>

Or should maybe content be:

So when I click a link, every link will call the same index.php but with a different id that includes the right php page?

vigour

I don't understand why I get a error all the time:

$id = $_GET['id'];

Can someone please tell me?

vigour

Originally posted by vigour
I don't understand why I get a error all the time:

$id = $_GET['id'];

Can someone please tell me?

Solved!!!

It seems that it was not a good idea to copy the text here and paste it into my code. I used zap gremlins in bbedit and voila, everything works ;-)

Megahertza

Here is one php page called test.php, if you copy it as it is and run it, it will work

<html>
<head>
<title>html/php page</title>
</head>
<body>
<table>
<tr>
<td><a href="test.php?id=1">Home</a></td>
<td><a href="test.php?id=2">Links</a></td>
<td><a href="test.php?id=3">Admin</a></td>
</tr>
</table>
<div>
<?php 
$id = $_GET['id']; 
//- Includes For Main Links - Portal, Links and Tutorials ect -// 
if ($id == 1) {echo 'This is the main page'; }  

if ($id == 2) {echo 'This is the links page';} 
if ($id == 3) {echo 'This is the admin page';} 
?>
</div>
</body>
</html>

The 3 links at the top link to the page itself, except every link has a different $id value to it. So if u click on Home the $id is set to 1 and the php code will print out the corresponding text.

If the id hasn't been enter(opened test.php first time) the php code will do nothing and you will only see the links....

vigour

Originally posted by Megahertza
Here is one php page called test.php, if you copy it as it is and run it, it will work
<html>
<head>
<title>html/php page</title>
</head>
<body>
<table>
<tr>
<td><a href="test.php?id=1">Home</a></td>
<td><a href="test.php?id=2">Links</a></td>
<td><a href="test.php?id=3">Admin</a></td>
</tr>
</table>
<div>
<?php 
$id = $_GET['id']; 
//- Includes For Main Links - Portal, Links and Tutorials ect -// 
if ($id == 1) {echo 'This is the main page'; }  

if ($id == 2) {echo 'This is the links page';} 
if ($id == 3) {echo 'This is the admin page';} 
?>
</div>
</body>
</html>
The 3 links at the top link to the page itself, except every link has a different $id value to it. So if u click on Home the $id is set to 1 and the php code will print out the corresponding text.

If the id hasn't been enter(opened test.php first time) the php code will do nothing and you will only see the links.... [/B]

Very nice!!! If you have the time. Can you show me a simple frame example? Where you have the menu in a main frame and open other pages in the other frames. But only if you have time to do it. This is no problem in html, but how do you do it in php?

Megahertza

Ok cool, I got 1 for ya. In this 1 there is 6 files. Still very simple.
index.php (which is the frameset and has no php at all)
top.htm (Is the top frame, which has 3 links....

<a href="main.php?id=1" target="mainFrame">HOME</a>
<a href="main.php?id=2" target="mainFrame">LINKS</a>
<a href="main.php?id=3" target="mainFrame">CONTACT</a>

main.php (this the main frame and is all php)
When u click on HOME, id=1 will be sent, main.php will then include the file news htm(so u will see the contents of new.htm in the main frame)

Befor I used the "echo" function to output writing, this time I used the "include()". This function grabs the contents of a file and puts it inside the output....

If you have any question just "private message me of post it here again"

vigour

Originally posted by Megahertza
Ok cool, I got 1 for ya. In this 1 there is 6 files. Still very simple.
index.php (which is the frameset and has no php at all)
top.htm (Is the top frame, which has 3 links....

<a href="main.php?id=1" target="mainFrame">HOME</a>

<a href="main.php?id=2" target="mainFrame">LINKS</a>

<a href="main.php?id=3" target="mainFrame">CONTACT</a>

main.php (this the main frame and is all php)
When u click on HOME, id=1 will be sent, main.php will then include the file news htm(so u will see the contents of new.htm in the main frame)

Befor I used the "echo" function to output writing, this time I used the "include()". This function grabs the contents of a file and puts it inside the output....

If you have any question just "private message me of post it here again" [/B]

Thanks for a very nice example that makes things easy to understand. I will contact you private if I got any problems, and I know I will :-)