SmoKing should be banned!

cresia

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Sorry it took me a while to see this, guys!

ahundiak

I don't mean to hijack this thread or anything but I wonder if anyone else has ever considered tracking down spammers and do something to discourage them from spamming again.

Any thoughts on what to do if you ever found yourself face to face with a spammer?

Drakla

I'd write him a letter of complaint... then do it again the next day 19 times offering him pills to cure his condition, ask him why he does it, is it because his 'manhood' is too small, then send him some information on that.. etc, etc.

LordShryku

I've always found baseballs bats to be effective. That's just me though.

Sxooter

Yeap, I believe in a couple of forms of vigilante justice.

Catch someone breaking into your car? Tire iron to the head.

Catch someone beating / molesting / raping an innocent, run them through.

Catch someone spamming, beat them with a baseball bat.

I've always thought that those particular forms of vigilante justice could serve society well. But some people say I'm a throwback to the old west...

davidjam

Originally posted by Sxooter
Yeap, I believe in a couple of forms of vigilante justice.

Catch someone breaking into your car? Tire iron to the head.

Catch someone beating / molesting / raping an innocent, run them through.

Catch someone spamming, beat them with a baseball bat.

I've always thought that those particular forms of vigilante justice could serve society well. But some people say I'm a throwback to the old west...

The first and third "service" are not in proportion to the second. I quasi-agree with the second, but really a tire iron or a baseball bat for something as unimportant as a vehicle or some data on the internet???? (or maybe the whole thing was meant as a joke...) I know in my localle there are laws that put theft near the same level as murder. :bemused:

/me seeks a place in the hills

Sxooter

Isn't it kinda funny that in the the old testament, it was quite the opposite on rape versus theft. I.e. if you raped someone's daughter, you had to marry her. You even still got the dowry.

If you stole, you got your hand chopped off or got stoned. And I don't mean the happy kind there.

These kinds of attitudes change over time and in different cultures. But honestly, theft has always made me sick to my stomach. If you've ever come home to find you house ransacked or had a classic car vandalized after spendng hundreds of hours fixing it up, you know how bad it can be.

I've always been a bit of an anarchist. I.e. I favor the idea of taking the law in your own hands, because no one else is gonna do anything most of the time anyway.

If someone is a theif, they're a drain on society, and honestly, I think we're better off with them dead. The only problem is I'm not a fan of the government being in charge of deciding who should or should not be alive, so I guess there's a bit of a stalemate there in my philosophy.

If I was on a jury for a guy who wanged a thief in the head and killed him, I'd use jury nullification to find him not guilty.

goldbug

Originally posted by Sxooter
I've always thought that those particular forms of vigilante justice could serve society well. But some people say I'm a throwback to the old west...

I was watching the news last night, and there was a story about a woman who was dissatisfied with her hair salon "experience", came back, demanded her money back at gunpoint, then took her business promptly to another salon.

The only thing I could think, was that in stereotypical "cowboy times", this would have been a completely acceptable way of obtaining a refund 🙂

davidjam

Pop Stat: Percentage of crimes that are violent in nature (worldwide): USA 38%, Rest of world: 4% and under.

Pop Quiz: In America if an intruder is attacking a husband's wife and his new DVD player is about to fall off the cabinet in the scuffle, will he save his wife or the DVD player?

Sxooter

Goldbug, one wonders how bad a haircut has to be in order to be justified with using a gun to get a refund. I mean, maybe the woman's hair was bright orange and falling out in clumps or something...

davidjam, I wonder why we are so much more violent as a society. I wonder how much of it is perception versus reality. It possible that certain crimes simply aren't reported everywhere. For instance, in Spain, young men fight all the time. The cops do nothing, there are no statistics on it. no guns, no knives, just fists, and honor. In Spain, chicks really DO dig scars. Having one makes you ruggedly handsome.

In India, every day women are burned to death because their families didn't pay the groom a large enough dowry. Most of these incidents go un or under reported.

So, we're not the only ones, maybe we're just better at noticing it?

Elizabeth

Originally posted by goldbug
I was watching the news last night, and there was a story about a woman who was dissatisfied with her hair salon "experience", came back, demanded her money back at gunpoint, then took her business promptly to another salon.

No jury of her female peers would convict her; I can totally relate.

Elizabeth

Originally posted by Sxooter
So, we're not the only ones, maybe we're just better at noticing it?

I agree Sxooter- I think we've perfected the art of paralysis by analysis.

davidjam

There may be truth in what you say. But I don't think it's enough to make up the 28% difference. I think one of the problems is that other cultures have a greater capacity for expression of their feelings, so things get dealt with -- communicated, expressed -- daily, whereas I see a great deal of smiling here when the reality within is not a happy one. And this I see is the result of an accumulation of "minor" injustices coupled with the non-acceptability of honest verbal expression. -- MHO

LordShryku

I'll give you this story and you can make what judgments about it or me that you want to.

Just as a background: I'm not exactly a small man. I'm 6'5, 260 pounds. I spent quite a bit of time while growing up getting into fights. My dad is an old school biker and taught me how to fight pretty well. My brother is a troublemaker, so most of those fights were on his behalf. When you fight a lot, you get a certain anger instilled in you, and while I have calmed down a lot as I've gotten older, my tolerance level still only goes so far.

Here goes:
I was in my apartment about 3 weeks ago, working. It had been a pretty long day, and I wanted to put some finishing touches on things. Usually when I work, I put on some music to fit my existing mood. At the moment, this happened to be some 70's rock.

Suddenly, I started hearing some bass. Loud bass. Being in an apartment, this isn't too uncommon, but after a minute, it had gotten overwhelmingly loud, and now I could actually feel the thumping. It was so inaudible, that I couldn't really make out where it was coming from, but I definitely couldn't just put up with it any more.

So I put on some shoes and head outside to follow it. It took a minute, but I tracked it down to a jeep in the parking lot, which is at least 100 yards from my apartment. Being that it was so far away, and I could feel the bass, I was already pretty steamed. I walked over to this guy in his jeep, and he turned the music down. The conversation played out something like this:

Me: Can you keep that down?
Him: Why? I don't have to.
Me: Because I can feel it in my apartment, which is way down there.
Him: Yeah, and I paid good money for that.
Me: And I pay good money for my apartment, which you're intruding on.
Him: Well, I don't have to keep it down, and I'll play it how I want to.
Me: If I hear it again, this isn't going to go as well for you.

I walk away, hoping that a threat would be enough to get him to keep it down. Obviously it wasn't, because as soon as I got to my apartment, the music was back up, this time louder than before. I ran back out there, completely steamed. He hopped out of his jeep, and I put a pretty good hurting on him. Then I turned the music down.

Now, most people have mixed reactions to this. Some say I over-reacted. Some think I may be justified. Either way, it's done, and I haven't heard his music since, though I have seen his jeep in the parking lot many times. I personally think that had I called the police, nothing would have happened at all. They'll tell him to turn it down, and they'll drive off. People like this have no respect for other people, and without some sort of personal reminder that bad things can happen to them if they want to act stupid, they'll continue to act stupid.

But that's just my opinion. Sorry for the long post.

Elizabeth

I probably would have just said "I'll give you 5 bucks if you turn that down.".... seems to work on the kids anyway.

davidjam

This is exactly why my wife and I have our eyes on 20 acres out of town. Because there are so many rude jerks without respect for others. LS, thanks for sharing your story. I don't know what to say, sounds pretty intense.

LordShryku

I think the point I was trying to make was that as just as we're more of a violent society, we're also a more disrespectful society. Most people don't care about how they inconvenience other people, which can (and obviously does) lead to more violence.

Elizabeth, while that thought never even crossed my mind, it would seem like it would give them more of a reason to come back every night and do the same thing.

Anyway, I thought I'd throw that out there. Not saying it's the right thing to do, it was just my personal reaction. So while I was joking about the baseball bat originally, over a continued persistance to annoy me, it would probably eventually come to that with me.

Elizabeth

Lord, I know what you are saying -and although I was kidding, I didn't mean to make light of your situation. And you're right- those kind of people have no respect at all for anyone around them; one of my major pet peeves.

I'm surprised that the police were not called on you however, then you would have been in a much worse situation.

My husband also used to get quite upset at things like that, but I think as you get older you mellow out considerably, and you realize that there's no way to win that type of situation.

I just hope he doesn't come back another night with a "buddy or 2".

Sxooter

I remember as a teenager getting my ass beaten for being a smart ass. Sometimes, it's just the object lesson one needs. Like the ass in the jeep.

csn

At least Kancho and other pokes at private parts aren't popular in the US.