uploading to server

bluecoder

I have learn PHP a few weeks ago and manage to make the webpage successfully working.What should I do to let the user from other location view my webpage through Internet?

justsomeone

you need to copy your page(s) to a web server which is accessible over the internet, and let the other user(s) know the location of that server and the location of your page(s) on that server.

At the simplest level, if your PC has a direct internet connection, and doesn't have any firewall etc blocking access to your webserver, you could just let the other user know the current IP address of your PC and the path to the web page(s) you have created.

It's more common though, to use a specialist web server with a permanent high-speed internet connection for this purpose.

bluecoder

I plan to load this web page in a PC which have connection to Internet.This PC will be connected to Internet through a LAN that consist of switch and ADSL modem. If the firewall is disabled, will it cause security threat to my LAN? If I understand correctly, IP address that go through modem will not be the same as view by user at other location(over Internet) which is not a part of the LAN.Correct me if I'm wrong.

I appreciate further advice.... Thanks

thorpe

no need to turn the firewall off, just make sure you are forwarding port 80 to the server.

bluecoder

If I use the way as discussed above, I have no idea what should I type in the URL.In this case my computer name is jack and my PC IP add is 192.168.x.xxx, while the modem IP add is 64..yy.yyy.yy. Please advice...

Forgive me to ask a very basic question coz I'm very new in web development.What I m looking for is that I already have a website that workable at my local machine/PC which involved database processing.Now I want to make it acccessible through the Internet.I planned to use local machine as a server that contain website content(PHP) and database file(MySQL) and this web server will be connected to the Internet through switch and ADSL modem.Do I need to register a domain to get all this done and How ?

laserlight

You need to use port forwarding to get requests on port 80 forwarded to your comp.
The IP address that others will use to access your server will be your modem's IP address, the 64.x.y.z one.
192.168.0.x is the address of your comp on your LAN.

You dont need to register a domain name unless you want to use it that way.

bluecoder

So that mean the URL is : http://64.x.y.z/192.168.0.x/index.html. Am I right?(Assuming my first homepage is index.html).

I would definitely glad to hear that I do not need to register a domain.That could help me save a lot.

laserlight

No, it would be:
http://64.x.y.z/index.html

bluecoder

I have tried it but still couldn't open the homepage.I have try both WAN IP add and Gateway IP, but couldn't work.

Well, for my actual case:
I typed URL - http://64.x.y.z/membership/main_member.html
for WAN IP add or
http://67.p.q.r/membership/main_member.html for Gateway IP

Both way couldn't work.
Is there any step I have missed out?

Note:
'main_member.html' is inside 'membership' folder on server.
But couldn't get the page.

laserlight

Have your set port forwarding on your router/switch?

bluecoder

I have two switch stack on each other and one of them connected to ADSL modem.Shall I set port forwarding for both switch? And how to do that?

laserlight

Shall I set port forwarding for both switch?

I'm not an expert at networking, so I dont know. But for home networks you should be able to play guess and check.

And how to do that?

That depends on the interface provided by your equipment. Read the relevant technical manuals provided when you bought the switches.

bluecoder

Ok. I had searched and read the manual on how to set port forwarding on my router in this few days.I am clear on how to set the port forwarding now,but I still have a doubt, what is the "Destination Port From" and "Destination Port To" and "Local Port" # shall I fill in? Is it related to the TCP port I set in MySQL?

bluecoder

anybody got advice for me?I have delay this project for so long.
Really appreaciate ur advice.

pablodelapena

hi, bluecoder, i got your message in my past topic which handles exactly this.

Basically what the others have told you so far is 100% right and as fara s I'm aware you have probably just missed something which has thrown you off course.

Your computer is on a nework, to identify itself on the network it has an internal IP 192.68. bla bla, your modem has a seperate IP to identify tiself on the ISP network.

First step to take is make sure that others know the external IP.

Secondly you need to have apache, php and myself running for any sort of thing to happen.

thirdly if you are behind a router it needs to be configured to send HTTP requests on Port 80 to the computer with apache etc running. ie: the computer with ip address 192.68 bla bla (where that si your computer with the files etc).

Now, in theory this all should work no problems. But you most likely will have a problem. I sure as hell did.

If it doesnt work, you are connected to the internet and apache and php etc are running fine try logging into the routers configurations and take a look at whats happening there.

[url]http://192.128..1[/url] is often the url for the router.

Now, each router is different but for mine i go to the Virtual server setting. A virtual server is basically a rule which the router deals with. If a request for something on port 80 comes to the router it forwards that request to a certain computer within it's network which should respond accordingly.

In my router it was simply a case of typing in the internal IP (192. bla bla) and specifying which port it was to act on and whether it was TCP or UDP.

And thatw as it, my fileserver worked!

However, if you are still having problems make sure that apache is listening on port 80, you'll find that in the configuration file for apache.

Hope it works out for you!

bluecoder

Hi pablodelapena,u r right.My server is inside LAN network and connect thru router.

I manage to get the WAN IP(or router's IP) from the router and did configuration on router (port forwarding) to send HTTP request to port 80 to the server.Server is running all the PHP, APACHE and MySQL.

I could have missed out the Apache config.I open up the httpd.config file and found the listen config as shown below.

Listen: Allows you to bind Apache to specific IP addresses and/or

ports, instead of the default. See also the <VirtualHost>

directive.

#
#Listen 3000
#Listen 12.34.56.78:80

I guess the '#' sign is a comment sign which deactivate the command. What should I do if let say my WAN IP is 66.88.55.44 and the server IP is 192.168.1.111, for example. Which line of the config file should I change?I guess I should delete the # sign on the particular command line, right?

weekender

You don't need to change your apache config - it will work on the default

To answer your previous question, the "Destination Port From" and "To" are both 80 - as you are using a single port, not a range.

The forwarding IP address is the ip of the computer you are running php on

If this is active, you should be able to give people your external (adsl) ip (64.x.x.x) and get to the root of your web server

adam

bluecoder

I still couldn't make the things run over internet after follow the guidance given.Did I missed out any configuration? Need advice?

thorpe

really... this has little to do with php if at all. people go to university to study networking and server administration, your really not going to get all the details you need in just a few posts. not that its that difficult, but you do need an understanding of what ip's and ports actually are.

not wanting to push you away but i'd seriously consider just renting some server space. its easier to set up, more secure, more reliable, and i'd say your site will run a hello of a lot quicker for it.

if you really want to go the DIY method, you might want to get yourself a good book (or 2) on networking and server administration using apache.