Recently Zend have released a preview version of their upcoming PHP 5 framework. Developers include Andi Gutmans and Chris Shiflett - big names in PHP. Extreme Simplicity is the driving idea. Whether it is true remains to be seen.

The framework is based around the MVC design pattern, and provides a whole bunch of extra functionality for speeding up application development. Beware, the current release is definitely 'alpha' stage and there are still bugs abound.

At a first glance I am really liking what I see. There's nothing terrifically revolutionary here but not many frameworks have names like Zend and IBM behind them.

Some hot debate has being going on at Sitepoint, with some amusing bashing both to and from Chris Shiflett.

It's all really interesting for me, I am looking to take up an MVC framework which will take care of the mundane things in development. If the forthcoming Eclipse plugin is of the same high standard I think I will have found a winner.

    the truly amusing thing about Chris Shiflett posting on Sitepoint is that he only bothers to pop his head in when someone says something he doesn't like. He is completely absent from all other discussions.

    I'm sure he's a busy person, hey we all are. But I do find it rather amusing that he doesn't have time for productive discussions, but at the slightest hint of descent toward PHP, Zend, or anything he's working on, he's got plenty of time to jump in with both guns blazin'... And anytime debate with him gets heated, it's really quite sad because he's never to blame in the eyes of the moderators. They really do baby him in issues where clearly 2 or more parties are equally involved. Ah, don't you just love politics.

    The Zend Framework (ZF) seems a bit to early in development for me. I think I'll continue using my own for now (or possibly indefinitely). Only time will tell how good it will eventually turn out. IBM has a few really nice extensions they are developing for PHP, so here's hoping they put that same kind of effort into the Framework (I can't be sure but it seems like so far it has mostly coded by a only few people)

      dream.scape wrote:

      he only bothers to pop his head in when someone says something he doesn't like

      Like kibo in Usenet, only with smarter AI?

        How smart would it really have to be?

        <?php

$data=system("lynx -dump http://sitepoint.net/forum.php?foo=bar");

if (stristr("Shiflett", $data) {
   if stristr("stupid", $data {
      syslog(LOG_EMERG, "Sitepoint lusers up in arms *AGAIN*");
   }
}

?>

        And, of course, since he IS Chris Shiflett, I'm sure he could do a much better job.....

        😃

          Zend Framework...is the title of this thread.

          Thanks Shrike for the heads up...I've been waiting for this to start happening.

            dalecosp wrote:

            I'm sure he could do a much better job.....

            And extremely simply, too.

              Zend Framework, awww thanks but no thanks 😉

              *spanks the procedural monkey one more time!

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