[RESOLVED] how large?

rbblue8

So...

when you guys code a page..

what size screen rez do you code it for?? 1024x768?

khendar

Personally I try to make my pages as flexible as possible - so they will work as low as 800x600. Any lower than that and the viewer doesn't deserve to view my masterwork 😛 It was drummed into me during my studies to accommodate as much of the target audience as possible.

These days - I think you'd be safe aiming for 1024.

Jason_Batten

700 - 750 pixel width seems to do it.

waits for someone to btch about fixed widths

Weedpacket

I try to code the page so that it can be used in Lynx.

Jason_Batten

Yeah I've been using that for the past year. Works wonders 🙂

vaaaska

Between 480 - 1024.

rbblue8

thanks guys!

I assume you use an autop strech table to lay our your site?

piersk

Tables?

spit

rbblue8

lol,

then how?

piersk

Css

vaaaska

I had a dream last night that I was doing this 'live' design compeition (with a live audience) and the goal was to screw up your code as bad as possible and still make something. I was cutting out large pieces of code on styrofoam and wearing it...

Yeah...I know...I shouldn't talk about these kinds of things. 😉

I'm all for dynamic layouts that make use of css and javascript together - it's just too easy and works on most things. I think it's funny...it's mostly the ultra-nerds who turn off their javascript and complain about it. If things degrade well then why not?

I wonder how many of these same folks stopped complaining when they saw just how interesting ajax made things...

Ok, back to my hole...zzzzhhhhhhwwwwwzzzzzaaaaap!

LordShryku

vaaaska wrote:
II think it's funny...it's mostly the ultra-nerds who turn off their javascript and complain about it.

I seem to remember a javascript virus, and Microsoft telling people to avoid being infected, turn off Javascript. This strikes me as a reason a non-ultra-nerd would have it turned off.

rbblue8

LordShryku wrote:
I seem to remember a javascript virus, and Microsoft telling people to avoid being infected, turn off Javascript. This strikes me as a reason a non-ultra-nerd would have it turned off.

Yeah.. Being a network admin... I remember that.

I also do not know how to code using css and java.

I mean come on.. I use dreamweaver for god sake.

Not a note pad kid here

khendar

I use DW too - But I still code in raw HTML 😛

Tables should be used for displaying tabular data - Layouts should be designed in CSS.

rbblue8

yeah..

have no idead how to do that.

I design my layouts in photo shope... then it exports it into html.

then DW comes along and finishes it off the for the one two.

bpat1434

have no idead how to do that.

I think it's time you picked yourself up a book.... or looked online for a tutorial on it (w3schools.com has some okay basic tutorials). You'd be amazed at just what can be achieved. Hell, even a table can be made with CSS... oh yeah... I went there.... TABLES CAN BE REPLACED BY CSS!!! HAHAHAHA!!

I design my layouts in photo shope... then it exports it into html.

then DW comes along and finishes it off the for the one two.

Reason #1 why I'll never respect any designer that does that.... dreamweaver makes some of the WORST code i've ever seen. Yes I started there, but I learned quickly that staying there wasn't for a real designer. I still design inside of a graphics program, then I chop up my images manually, and lay them into a custom CSS design. Then I know what works, what doesn't, and where I went wrong. Plus, it's half the fun of designing....

Get enough monkeys in a room and hitting buttons & keys on a mouse, and they too could make a design. Maybe not type shakespeare (only 35 letters so far, been running for 15 days), or make the best looking site, but by chance they could do it.

EDIT
Oh yeah... to answer the initial question:
I design for the target audience. Usually I know the general majority of the audience would be on a 15" CRT monitor running Windows 98 at 800x600 resolution. So I usuall code to a max width of 750 px. But then again, I also code for some larger audiences with a min width of 750px.... so the audience should determine the size.....

rbblue8

well i would defently agree with you when it comes to dw making the worst code.

I made a very simple page in dw when i first started out. Ya know.. a few lines of txt and a few images. then i made the mistake of wanting to be perfect and went to http://validator.w3.org/

lets just say when it came back with more errors then lines of code.... i was a little up set at dw.

Yeah it looked good in IE... but i just had to have the W3 logo on my page 🙂

Merve

Code with percentages wherever possible, but maintain a reasonable range of widths of between 600 px and 864 px if necessary. At least, that's how I tend to design webpages, not that I do very often.

And try to start hand-coding stuff. That way you have complete control, and you can make it validate. It takes a lot of time at first, but it's worth it. Eventually, you'll have a whole set of templates that you can swap and modify when you need them.

Rodney_H_

rbblue8 wrote:
yeah..

have no idead how to do that.

I design my layouts in photo shope... then it exports it into html.

then DW comes along and finishes it off the for the one two.

Have at it: http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=css+tutorial&btnG=Google+Search

rbblue8

Rodney H. wrote:
Have at it: http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=css+tutorial&btnG=Google+Search

I auctally have spent most of the day yesterday working on it.

http://www.nightlance.com/test.php <--css

http://www.nightlance.com <--bad version.

I'm all most there.