Hi dalecosp!
And thanks for your quick response! 😉
- Thanks for welcoming me to the forum! 🆒
2 a. I have to admit, that I'm taking not only my first steps with PHP (I assume that is what you were talking about) but my VERY first step! Therefore, I see a lot of technical terms that I am not familiar with, yet. I.e. that would be RFC-compliant, RFC 2617 and the whole sentence stating..., "So, the documentation for the webserver might allow you to set this up using the server's software controls (configuration file, whatever)" is pretty difficult for me to understand completely. Maybe, it helps if I send you here the link to the website-host so you can get an impression of it yourself:
http://clichehosting.com/uk
I currently run the website on the ALFA-suite but will upgrade from it to the GAMMA-suite before I install the log-in so the PHP can work. That will be a minor problem though.
b. The site is a simple presentational site. It isn't anything that serious that I'd hire someone to do it. It's spare time fun, a favor for a friend and the benefit of educating myself in a realistic problem that I could learn from and later on transfer to i.e. a professional job in the far future. But that's far away. Right now I'd like to learn. In this case you are right that I chose PHP. The reason for this is, that I've heard a lot of positive things about it for one and for the other that most of those statements were positive in describing it as the most simple programming language to learn while it's still able to do pretty sophisticated job. I do have the time or those weeks you suggested, the desire to learn and am able to get some very good reading from the library and therefore can learn things more relaxed.
As a matter of fact. I had already ordered some books online in the library before I even posted in this forum but since those PHP-books seem to be VERY popular I have to wait on virtually every one out of those 10-15 I ordered and besides that I can't go to the library physically in the easter holidays.
c. I assume that you want to say that it isn't very safe to send passwords etc. without at least some form for encryption but as mentioned before. I'm doing this on a homepage of a friend not for a company or anything where encryption is a priority. I'd like to learn this for later on but right now I'd just like to understand the principles to make this work and to set things up the way I want to and which I also explained in my first post.
I had a look at your link: https://www.foobar.com and I assume that this is an intentional example of showing how unsafe log-ins can be. Is that correct? Please give me some feedback on that one. Thanks!
And last but not least, I read the following...
"And, once you start "coding" in PHP, come on back and let us know how it's going ... you'll surely have questions about making things work properly. That's what people here like to do ... answered well-phrased and well-considered questions about programming in PHP."
with a bit of the worry that I had annoyed you with being disorganised or something. I hope that this wasn't the case as I assure you that it neither was my intention to look like that. It's simply a fact that I am a TOTAL newbie as already mentioned in 2a.
I am here exactly for that reason and I'm just writing the way I encounter the problems. The problem right now is, that I have no experience and was trying to get started easily and in a relatively short time. Meaning, that I could maybe get the same type of experience here with this problem as I did when I started out with my flash log-in problem. Back then, I was lucky and clever enough to search the web and some fora to quickly find a few already finished and written scripts in action-script that I could then dissect piece by piece and sort of understand and educate myself with. An easy, fun and very quick way of setting the script up yet while understanding and learning from it. :rolleyes:
Sort of that thing, I was hoping to be able to experience here as well. It's not because I'm lazy but maybe because I have my own way of learning and get impatient when things aren't presented so I(!) can understand them best. I ask for what I need and then continue working until I hit another problem and then ask again. A snippet of code and a bit of explanation about the most basic things could therefore propel me very far in my efforts and I was looking for something like this when going into PHP-fora. Not meaning this in a negative manner or anything like this.
Of course I could learn from a book but for one, I don't have any at the moment for the before mentioned reasons with the library and for the other that it's a drag for me to read and understand things from a book. Meaning that it would take much longer and be much more "dry" if you understand what I mean.
I hope that that makes somehow sense but thank you for your time and answer anyhow. 😉
Looking forward to hearing from you! 😉
Regards
safesite
dalecosp wrote:1. Welcome to PHPBuilder!
- You'll need to give a little more detail if you want specific suggestions.
Here's a few "factoids" to act as "food for thought":
a. Most web servers (the software, that is, Apache, IIS, Netscape Server, etc) provide a "basic authentication" (that is, if they are RFC-compliant ... RFC 2617, perhaps?). So, the documentation for the webserver might allow you to set this up using the server's software controls (configuration file, whatever).
b. Any of a number of scripting languages can do something similar. Since you're at this site, perhaps you are interested in scripting using PHP. Given some time to practice, some good reading, and a desire to learn, you could be using PHP to solve this within a couple of weeks. If that's not in your time frame, you might want to consider hiring this done, if it's important enough.
c. Keep in mind that either method described above would send the passphrases in cleartext unless the connection is encrypted (e.g., an SSL connection - [url]https://www.foobar.com)[/url].
You might take a look at some of the board's "ground rules" as found in my .sig. There are lots of tutorials on the "main" part of this site, and at Zend.com, and other places. "UTSL" (use the search link) and look over this forum for "book recommendations" ... many people find that this is the best way to learn.
And, once you start "coding" in PHP, come on back and let us know how it's going ... you'll surely have questions about making things work properly. That's what people here like to do ... answered well-phrased and well-considered questions about programming in PHP.
Good luck!
