Thanks. The yahoo hosted site came back up and then went back down again. I know they are totally different networks and miles apart but I was having problems accessing the newsgroup as well so I was a little worried about my local network. I can now access the hurricane electric site and newsgroup no problem but the yahoo served site is still down as of a couple minutes ago. No big deal, just wondering. I guess I'll keep my eyes peeled for a patch just in case.