Yep, pull the covers back just a bit more, you are getting warm. You've given the obvious from viewing what source you are allowed as a remedial user. Going deeper, let's get to the URL rewriter process, the index'ing mechanism and touch on the DB.. This is where I fall down. yeah, there as many books as there are opinions on the best approach here but i'm looking for, as i stated a canned package if one exist. Someone has found it. If I can get close with a package that lends itself to customization, i'll take the high road.