What's in your spam box?

dalecosp

What a wide variety of crud I see every day. With all the postmaster@ for a dozen domains or so, plus webmaster, plus the fact I use a real address for posting to real lists, I get to see lots of spam.

What's in your box?

dalecosp

Poll results aren't "public" ... so no one will know about your Vi@gr@ purchases, guyz 😉

veridicus

I was getting a lot for stocks, but those have dropped off and I'm back on drugs... um, I mean I'm now getting more for drugs.

madwormer2

OEM software at low prices!!!!

This is identical to about 100 emails I have in my inbox (which currently totals at 4201 emails....

EDIT: Make that 4206...

HalfaBee

hehe, I just gave my bank details to launder some money from Nigeria.
I am sure they will leave my 10% in there.

Weedpacket

bradgrafelman wrote:
OMG I JUST WON A TRIP TO AN EXOTIC ISLAND!

Isle of Wight.

dalecosp

lol, nah. Probably New Zealand 😉

:evilgrin:

piersk

Weedpacket wrote:
Isle of Wight.

<in joke that you might need to be British or have been to the IOW to understand>Nah, I think you need to be over 60 to travel there</joke>

And as for spam, I have 5 different messages from 5 different people all offering "FDA approved on-line pharmacies"

dalecosp

piersk wrote:
from 5 different people

Really?? 😉

piersk

Apparently so.

Weedpacket

<in joke that you might need to be British or have been to the IOW to understand>Nah, I think you need to be over 60 to travel there</joke>

If it's in-jokes about exotic island locations...
Waiheke (how is Castaway doing? :evilgrin🙂

vaaaska

I don't really get spam anymore...my host went completely nuts and has so far eradicated about 98% (or so) of it. So far.

But, yeah...I wonder how many legit emails don't make it through? I think email has now come full circle where heavy users don't really care if something doesn't get through. If it's important enough a phone call will be made.

dalecosp

vaaaska wrote:
I don't really get spam anymore...my host went completely nuts and has so far eradicated about 98% (or so) of it. So far.

Hmm, I'd think it a good move to post some statistics, including possible false positives. The problem is ID'ing them, of course; if we're talking any substantial volume of mail then the manpower (I don't know of any automated HAM detector apart from a SPAM/HAM comparator, which is what they're presumably using already) would be substantial.

Do you know what their philosophy is? Proactive, or reactive? Do they just throw it away?

Or, what do they use?

Currently, spam fighting for my few domains and limited number of users costs me an hour or so per day. But, that's PROactive time, mostly spent in blocking senders and reporting the guilty. Other than that, some of our users are "on their own" in re: filtering.

I'm hoping to get one setup for all, but only one ... which means we'll have to migrate delivery/MX addresses for some domains to another address.

But, yeah...I wonder how many legit emails don't make it through? I think email has now come full circle where heavy users don't really care if something doesn't get through. If it's important enough a phone call will be made.

That rings true with our experience. As we've begun blocking larger sets of dynamic and generic DNS zones, every once in a while we found some fairly small outfit with a mailserver but no PTR records ending up blocked. Our clients who are their correspondents were pretty quick to let us know they weren't getting through....

Bunkermaster

I get a lot of russian stuff too. no idea what it's about. I also get around 700 emails a day from my many hack traps and spam busters.

bpat1434

You know, being in my early 20's, I need help with my ED and non-existant portfolio. Whew, what would I ever have done if not for winning the INTERNET LOTTERY for 999,999,999,999,999,999,999 Ruby 5 times? Within 3 months? I'm a rich man!!

Usually all my spam junk is filtered rather well. Nothing really hits my inbox. Of course, my most infamous email is that of "SEXUALLY EXPLICIT: Your Mom!"

HalfaBee

Bunkermaster wrote:
I get a lot of russian stuff too. no idea what it's about. I also get around 700 emails a day from my many hack traps and spam busters.

Don't get much Russian stuff, but I did get 8000+ emails from a hack trap, wasn't really happy about that 😉
Surprised my host didn't shut me down for spamming myself. 😃

vaaaska

dalecosp wrote:
Hmm, I'd think it a good move to post some statistics, including possible false positives. The problem is ID'ing them, of course; if we're talking any substantial volume of mail then the manpower (I don't know of any automated HAM detector apart from a SPAM/HAM comparator, which is what they're presumably using already) would be substantial.

Do you know what their philosophy is? Proactive, or reactive? Do they just throw it away?

Or, what do they use?

Yo Dale...So far, this is my experience...aaaaaaaaaaaand...they are using:

http://www.greylisting.org/
And something called FMX (can't find it on Google)
And, I believe some custom rules.

Seriously, wiped spam out for me...I used to get tons of it. Whatever they have done...I'm quite happy with the results.

Edit: I should say I was quite amazed when one day the spam stopped. I actually thought something was wrong...

bpat1434

Servage is now using FMX, Greylisting, and Manual validation.

FMX
The principle is similar to the one used by grey listing. This method however alters the first and last MX record for the selected domain. A real mail server will then attempt to deliver mail to the next (higher) MX which will then accept the mail. Spammers does usually not do this.

Email is supposed to be sent to the lowest numbered MX record first with the higher MX records being backup servers. Spammers often with try the highest MX record first thinking that the backup servers have less spam filtering than the main email server. They try the highest MX record and then never come back. Therefore the highest MX is also altered when FMX is enabled.

Please note: Since FMX alters your MX record it is not enabled/disabled instantly. Changes may take 12 hours to apply.

stolzyboy

i have BoxTrapper on my site, hosted at hostgator, not sure if it's cPanel specific or not, but it requires a person to verify they are a real person to send me a message, by replying to an auto-generated message... if they do, they are whitelisted and the message gets delivered and never have to do it again from that email address

they also have spamassassin installed and keep it updated

i don't get spam thankfully, i did at my old host, LOTS

Shrike

Google blocks alot of junk, mostly full of random text - presumably an attempt to fool the filters. Or is it random? The machines, they sing to each other in the night!

Darrino@auracom.com wrote:
they decided to spy on their lazy friend
The murmuring brook
or towring tree
By my display for he is half morning out of the purple shadow
up joined them moving faster as they moved.