I've been using Dreamweaver CS3 for awhile now and it's really overkill and is also starting to bug me. But I do like how I can keep my file system window open so I can easily open new files and browse the structure.
Anyway, I want to look at some other apps. Preferably something that allows me to view my folder structure while I code. I do mainly PHP HTML and CSS. I don't need a 'preview' and I can code my div's and tables by hand so I don't need a WYSIWYG!
What do you use?
I'd use anything but dreamweaver 
You might want to try aptana or search the board for the other million threads on this subject 
I just purchased PHPDesginer 2008 after using the free trial for a couple weeks.
I've used dreamweaver since forever,
CS3 keeps trying to manage my sites though and it's pissing me off, bad ADOBE.
Although NogDog has gotten me curious, not an expensive program either. !
rulian wrote:I've used dreamweaver since forever,
CS3 keeps trying to manage my sites though and it's pissing me off, bad ADOBE.Although NogDog has gotten me curious, not an expensive program either. !
Yeah, after seeing the price points, I decided it was worth giving a try. I'm still tweaking configuration settings to get it to work just the way I want, but it definitely is significant step up from HTML-Kit, which is what I had been using. Probably the biggest time-saver for me compared to using HTML-Kit is the PHP parse-checker that runs as you edit, finding those missing semi-colons and unmatched delimiters right away.
Those features that make me enjoy programming C# and Java so much... They are getting better for PHP but nowhere near as good yet. I guess they can't be in a dynamic language...
dougal, what do you use for java I'm going to get into that soon
I shall confess that I use Notepad++ for editing on Windows (and gedit or Kate on Linux). I literally have my text editor, web browser (for testing in the case of PHP, or checking online documentation/sources for other languages), file browser (e.g., Windows explorer), and terminal window (for Bazaar on the command line) open when I program.
Oh, and I do the same when writing throwaway C++ programs for experimentation, though in that case I might not have the terminal window open. But I am inconsistent: for actual C++ programming, I use either Code::Blocks or Microsoft Visual Studio, depending on which compiler I want to use.
what do you use for java I'm going to get into that soon
And for Java, I use Netbeans 6.
When I use an IDE, I still have the web browser open for checking online documentation/sources and still use Bazaar from the command line.
I'am also using Notepad++ for php & Myeclipse for JAVA.but dreamweaver is a tool,it makes coding very simple.u guys use it for HTML also?
NogDog wrote:I just purchased PHPDesginer 2008 after using the free trial for a couple weeks.
I use also PHPDesigner as my main PHP Editor.
The 2007 Personal Edition.
When I need a few other special features I use also:
PHPEdit ...with Code Beautifier, Tidy Up before publish my code.
Notepad2 ... with Block Indents, Simply select the block and PRESS TAB key
Links:
PHPEdit = http://www.waterproof.fr/products/
Notepad2 = http://www.flos-freeware.ch/notepad2.html
Regars
halojoy
I have tried many editors, but I keep going back to Notepad++. Still looking though.
I personally use many many editors.
Zend Studio :: Used probably 80% of my time. Easy project creation (once you learn how) and awesome PHP help & syntax checker. Works nicely, and is a fork of eclipse (though that is a drawback).
NuSphere PhpED :: Used whenever I get tired of Zend Studio. Not as good of features, and has its own debugger; however, it does have integrated Database, FTP, SSH and other tools which are nice
ActiveState Komodo :: Used sparingly, but it is a good IDE. I just couldn't get past a few of the bumps that they haven't fixed like collapsing code and minor minor items. Otherwise, very good product. There is an "open source" edition which is free.
Blumentals WeBuilder :: I used to use this; however, I dropped it when I got my real PHP job for Zend. It's nice, and doesn't cost much. Did what I wanted (CSS, HTML, PHP, Javascript) and was pretty fast IIRC.
Edit+ :: Still my favorite quick-edit text editor. Supports multiple languages (Java, Javascript, C, C#, C++, PHP, CSS, HTML, XML, etc.) with syntax highlighting and custom clip-texts My first real PHP editor, and still, I believe, the best quick-editor out there [Cost: $20]
And of course, I do sometimes use notepad++ whenever I feel the urge to not use Edit+ (which is rare) or if I feel Edit+ is getting slow.
Hope that helps you out somehow.
rulian wrote:dougal, what do you use for java I'm going to get into that soon
Eclipse.
halojoy wrote:Notepad2 ... with Block Indents, Simply select the block and PRESS TAB key
Just FYI, you can indent/unindent selected blocks in PHPDesigner, too. However, it does not by default have a key associated with it. I went into the View -> Customize menu option and selected the Shortcuts tab, then assigned Ctrl+] for indent and Ctrl+[ for unindent (which is the same as the default shortcuts in HTML-Kit). (This is assuming, however, that the menu options are the same in the 2007 edition as in the 2008.)
All I use is vim. 
Dreamweaver CS3. Very good all in one tool and works well with Fireworks for graphics and such.
NogDog wrote:Just FYI, you can indent/unindent selected blocks in PHPDesigner, too.
However, it does not by default have a key associated with it.
I went into the View -> Customize menu option and selected the Shortcuts tab, then assigned Ctrl+] for indent and Ctrl+[ for unindent (which is the same as the default shortcuts in HTML-Kit).
(This is assuming, however, that the menu options are the same in the 2007 edition as in the 2008.)
I have suspected there was a way to indent in phpdesigner.
I just maybe havent disovered it yet.
thanks for your hint NogDog.
I check it out and try your hints.
Thanks
ps. I, being a flatfile man has found an issue in your nice Login script.
It is many times good to let other users debug our code
because they try things that are 'not perfectly' done.
Just because they do not use it as an experienced perfect user would do.
Anyway take a look at this
admin 5f4dcc3b5aa765d61d8327deb882cf99 1
halojoy 29bcd20026584ab1c8fa8b9cd1be9d23 0
Roy Rogers 12
b 92eb5ffee6ae2fec3ad71c777531578f 0
rollerball 7a10ea1b9b2872da9f375002c44ddfce 1Now, using spaces as delimiters ASSUME we do not use any usename with a space (ASCII=32) in it.
Trying to do so, gives some unexpected results (another way to say Screws it up).
Using some other delimter easy solves this.
Alternatively: Do not allow any usernames containing spaces.
Finally, I regard your homepage PHP scripts as both intelligent, useful and fairly simple!
Good scripts.
As well as your variation of use of [man]parse_ini_file[/man]. Great!
(of course i have a 'better' more advanced way of using parse_ini_file()
)Web reference links:
http://www.charles-reace.com/PHP_and_MySQL/Login_Control/
http://www.charles-reace.com/PHP_and_MySQL/Ini_File_Class/
By the way my friend, our PHP Helper #1 at www.phpbuilder.com/board/
I just love your love for your dog: Nogdog.
I am sure I couldnt do nothing but love that faithful friend of yours
if I ever could meet him, in person ...
DS. halojoy of sweden
may know more than is apperent by your first view
of him
zend studio for eclipse, i dont use half of what it offers yet, but i love it just for the real time syntax checking.
for html\css either the above or topstyle, which i also use to do all my php in till this year.
thanks for all the suggestions! I will try out a few of them..
Something that hasn't been mentioned yet that was suggested to me was Crimson Editor.. its worth checking out
foyer wrote:thanks for all the suggestions! I will try out a few of them..
Something that hasn't been mentioned yet that was suggested to me was Crimson Editor.. its worth checking out
As you may know, Crimson Eitor is being developed again ( after 3 year no releases )
And the name for NEW Crimson Editor is
Emerald Editor http://www.emeraldeditor.com/
We can download beta versions, debug, suggest improvements
and so, help the make maybe the perfect HTML PHP Editor
In the Emerald Forum!
In this post are beta downloads ( 2007/2008 ) for Vista XP windows.
... both setup.exe or portable.zip code
Emerald/Crimson Editor 3.72 currently in beta
The other moderators and I will try to keep this post updated as new fixes and features come in.
Enjoy,
Phil
- cedt-236-setup.exe (1639.1 KB - downloaded 439 times.)
- cedt-236-portable.zip (1606.58 KB - downloaded 228 times.)
- cedt-236-portable.tar.bz2 (1400.67 KB - downloaded 16 times.)
« Last Edit: March 18, 2008, 02:25:30 am by Phil »
thanks foyer
To tell about this editor.
It was new to me. I will give the new Emerald beta version a try.
regars
halojoy