Quote Originally Posted by bradgrafelman
EDIT: One of these days I swear I'll remember to refresh old tabs before replying. One of these days...
Quote Originally Posted by dalecosp
I'm fairly certain that what he meant was that while he was crafting a reply to some post or another, someone else added information to the thread that he would've like to have known about before he pushed "submit" on his own reply.
Perhaps. It should have been aimed at you then and not me; it was one more confusing comment. Stuff happens though.
Quote Originally Posted by Rivet
I have this unfortunate habit of being honest about things.
Honesty is not bad. I find that, especially on the internet, it is always complimented by patience. Text is a very ambiguous medium and it is extremely easy to jump to conclusions about the attitude with which it was written. I try to find the best possible way some comment could have been meant (even if I'm all but certain that it wasn't meant that way) and respond with that in mind. To repay your honesty, when I read your earlier post, my first impression was that you were being grumpy, defensive, and maybe you wanted to distract attention from the situation by trying to start a flame war. (Again, honesty, not an attack.) But I re-read it before I replied.
The following is more for edification than to teach; I am NOT trying to preach or teach here:
There's another aspect to look at this stuff. My "changes" were attempt to use phraseology compatible with the 'culture' as I referred to it. That only made tings worse since I felt the "Newbie" moniker here was a misnomer. Think of this:
From the visitor leaving the message, I click a button to send my e-mail: from the visitor's viewpoint, the mail has been "sent". "Sent" to the visitor means the e-mail was successfully "sent" (or "accepted", which is not as meaningful to many visitors) his or her message. So "sent" in this cases means the mail was accepted, and though "accepted" is more definitive technically, the visitor thinks "sent". THAT is the direction I started out in. As a newbie, I was looking at a different tunnel than the responses were. At one end, it's being "sent" and at the other end it's being "accepted".
Myself, when participating in group discussions, the first thing I look for is whether I understand the stated problem. If I don't, I'll often respond in two ways: a), asking for more clarification and detail, along with examples, and b) a brief answer to the question along with an open request for the querant to come back for more targeted answers.
I'm not burnt-out, nor am I here to sit on a pedestal or lecture anyone. I'm here because I think it's a great place to learn and to help others learn. That's it.
Nah, I don't think you're burnt-out or anything but I see evidence of it in others in other posts similar to my own issues. This IS a great place to learn IMO, and I intend to stick around here and on the other forum I like and my newsgroups. Bit by bit, I'm going through all the forum posts that might apply to me and have picked up quite a bit from it. Id like eventually to add my own expertise to others on PHP if I can get that far but it's slow going right now.
I hope you can continue to enjoy the forums,
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