But but but..

cluelessPHP

I like it..🙁

<center>

NogDog

But but but then you're embedding formatting into the semantics. 😉

cluelessPHP

It makes life so much easier than

.mydiv
{
  margin:0 auto;
}

.mydiv
{
  width:300px; 
  margin-left:auto;
  margin-right:auto;
}

.mydiv
{
  margin-left:50%;
  margin-right:50%;
}

Less code can't be a bad thing over all!

dalecosp

<!doctype html>
<html>
    <head>
        <title>test</title>
        <style type="text/css">
            .c { text-align:center; }
            .i { font-style:italic; }
            .b { font-weight:bold; }
            .px22 { font-size:22px; }
        </style>
    </head>
    <body>
       <div class="c i b px22">Centered bold 22px italics</div>
    </body>
</html>

NogDog

cluelessPHP;11055143 wrote:
...
Less code can't be a bad thing over all!

If you're absolutely sure you're never going to change the layout, that may be true; but if you do change the layout and the element is controlled by its class and/or id properties, then all you have to change is your CSS file, which is likely less intrusive than changing the PHP file that is generating your content. For long-term maintainability, you want to as much as possible separate your responsibilities: database interactions are separate from business logic are separate from page flow-control are separate from HTML output are separate from CSS layout -- especially as your application grows and needs to scale up. In other words, don't take a small shortcut now that may result in maintenance headaches later that take significantly more time than you originally saved. 🙂

cluelessPHP

oh...but still, guess I'll look at this thing

https://www.w3.org/TR/html5/introduction.html#html-vs-xhtml

dalecosp

XHTML is finished 😉

It's just that it's going to cost too much for some companies to convert ...

cluelessPHP

Couldn't Shadow DOM fix some of those issues? I remember watching a talk on it by Angelina Fabbro not long ago

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JNjnv-Gcpnw

dalecosp

NogDog;11055147 wrote:
In other words, don't take a small shortcut now that may result in maintenance headaches later that take significantly more time than you originally saved. 🙂

I just[sup]*[/sup] wish I had a better Karnak turban.

[*and maybe more trained monkeys ...]

NogDog

dalecosp;11055155 wrote:
I just[sup]*[/sup] wish I had a better Karnak turban.
...

[holds envelope to turban-topped head]

A: Siss, boom, bah.

[opens envelope and reads...]

Q: What is the sound of a sheep blowing up?

laserlight

NogDog wrote:
But but but then you're embedding formatting into the semantics.

Not necessarily:

<center>
    <name>Center for Internet Security</name>
    <leadership>
        <leader designation="CEO">John M. Gilligan</leader>
        <leader designation="President & Chief Operating Officer">Steven J. Spano</leader>
    </leader>
</center>

NogDog

laserlight;11055165 wrote:

Not necessarily:

<center>
    <name>Center for Internet Security</name>
    <leadership>
        <leader designation="CEO">John M. Gilligan</leader>
        <leader designation="President & Chief Operating Officer">Steven J. Spano</leader>
    </leader>
</center>

Took me a minute.... 😉