choosing visual c++ or visual basic

Anon

I am in the dilema of learnign Visual C++ or Visual Basic.
I know some C++ and PHP, so I love the sintaxis.
Many people i know now V_Basic, and none Visual C++.
I want to code some Client/Server applications and want to buy a book to learn the language.
So what language do you recommend me to learn and what book is good on the subject !?.

Thanks in advance.

Anon

How about Delphi ? It is not as high as VB nor it is very low like VC++, but it has great feature to do many application ...

VC must deal with many WinAPI ... VB is for highschool people ... Delphi is for us ...

Anon

it's simple,
if you want to build not powerfull softwares quickly choose VB.
But if you need special feature choose VC++

I work with VB about 2 years, and ... BOF !
VB is great only to:
- learn algo 🙂
- learn how to dev under WIN (only standard dev)
- learn how to use Database with algo

But a important parameter to take about, the difficulty to learn VC++

And what about C++ builder Borland ?
I listen that is easier to dev UNder it than under VC++. is it true ?

Anon

mmm... not sure what to choose...now a i have third option Delphi.

Anon

I just bought Visual Basic Learning Edition. It's very easy to learn and, well, very easy. I think I should have got Delphi. Anyway this is a PHP board!

Anon

So far, I have been doing :

VB for 5 years (since VB3.0)
VC++ for 2 years
C/C++ for 4 years
Pascal for 4 years
Delphi for 3 years

And I choose Delphi ... I use DirectX to make program similar to StarCraft, this kind of program you'll never can make in VB.

With VC++, you have to buy a complete book about WinAPI, MFC, but the program will be very powerfull enough even to make Quake III. But a lot of concept that you have to learn and develop in your brain ...

VB is a very high level programming language to learn ... that is half good half bad ... the good part that it is very easy to learn, the bad part is you only know the skin of the technical core itself... Making ActiveX program just only in 1 minutes ... But you will never know the core of ActiveX unless you make it from pieces.

Every application you can make with VC++ can be made in Borland Delphi, but not every application made in Delphi can be written in VB ...

VC++ is the hardest of all ... your first weeks will be filled with a lot of concepts ...

Delphi for sure !! It is not too low nor too high ...

Anon

I want too make a program that has messaging(like ICQ), some file transfer between clients, and somthing like a tamagotchi cartoon inside, that you have to feed, love, etc..etc.
I have never used a Visual enviroment, only nice UltraEdit, for PHP, c++, pascal and so.
In PHP was my most advanced programs, I read Professional PHP programing, Wrox book, and Core PHP programing, understanding everything in both.
Can't say i used C++ advanced features ever.

Do you now a good Delphi Book to buy ¡?

Anon

do U know Edit+ ?

Anon

Yeah, EditPlus (www.editplust)is great, just love it.

Anon

Yes, Borland Delphi can do that. In fact, now I'm doing LexZEUS Messenger with Delphi, it runs like Yahoo! Messenger with dynamic burning fire on background.

If you choose to use delphi, then learn TServerSocket and TClientSocket, that is the fun part...

For PHP, I use PHPEditor from www.soysal.com, it has ability for FTP, syntax colouring, debugging, quick PHP reference help (no need to go www.php.net to see the reference anymore, just press F1 on a specific function, for example : header(), echo(), eregi(), etc. )

rgds,

Alexander