stealing framed pages

pentinat

Listen to this,

I want to include a framed weather report from one page into my php site, I am trying with <?include("http://original_info");?> but I get errors, what can I do?

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Read the manual?

dolphinsnot

-Vincent-

i'm assuming that the manual is a comprehensive guide to syntax, its paramaters, problems, and uses, but if it were truly a complete, fully understandable guide, would there be any real need for a support site like PHPBuilder? i think not.

couldn't you theoretically run around to nearly every post on this site and smear your snotty 'Read the manual' comment all over the place?

is it really helpful to suggest that someone in a help_forum read the manual? isn't it assumed that a large number of us here have done exhaustive research of multiple resources before resorting to asking for assistance? even if the bible of manual hasn't been consulted, should you really waste your time with such unhelpful posts?

perhaps you would be better suited to sitting in a cave somewhere far outside the open source community.

just a brief rant. i appreciate all feedback from people on this site when i am having difficulties figuring out php stuff on my own, but your senseless, arrogant, 'holier than thou' suggestion is rather lame and counterproductive.

Cheers!

-dolphinsnot

shivers

Hang on a minute...

the PHP manual is a language reference all about the PHP itself - the syntax and semantics of it all and all that.

But there is far more to programming than that. No language reference is a guide to programming - and they aren't meant to be.

To be fair, vincent's response was a little 'concise' - but so was the question. While Vincent and many others (including myself) are more than happy to provide any help we can with others' projects/problems it is unreasonable to expect help on any simple question that would easily be solved just by a little thought. How many posts are there with questions that the asker could easily have worked out if they'd just checked the return value of the function they are calling? - far too many!!

And to top it all off - this question isn't even really about PHP! Stealing frames is HTML, pure and simple!! And does he even tell us what errors he's getting? Nope! Are they PHP errors, JavaScript errors, misrendered pages? Who knows!

Many of the people who ask questions here have done the research - or at least attempted to solve their problems themselves first. They are the ones who get the help.

Those who don't (and it is obvious...), don't.

Look, I understand where you're coming from - but really, the question askers are just as bad if not worse...

dolphinsnot

thank you for balancing out my rant. i agree.

i think that the fact that you at least went in to some detail about why it was a bad question in the first place is providing helpful information.

i've found many times that people (including myself) have a complex problem that they oversimplify and poorly research before asking an incredibly vague question.

i've asked dumb questions, but always appreciate at least being told why my question stinks. 'read the manual' is often used only to invalidate and deflate the importance of the fact that some person out there is frustrated with a problem and asking for help.

whatever. smell flowers. hug trees. be at one with the Tao. i'm stepping off my soapbox and putting it back in my pocket...

:-)
poof

-dolphinsnot

shivers

We've probably all asked stupid questions at some point. I guess its easy to get caught up in the problem and lose the sense that people need to be given context as well as question. Something like that anyways...

We all live and learn eh.

Hopefully loads of people will see both our rants and we can be comfortable in the warm glow of knowing that in some way we've helped raise the level of the forums.

Or I could just be going mad...

🙂

pentinat

Calm down guys,

I did the question, I make stupid questions and many times I get smart answers. When I get "read the manual" that means that the question is stupid.

Nevertheless the question involves PHP, instead of using HTML frames I wanted to use some kind of include() script. I searched this GREAT forum and there were many stupid questions like mine, I found the fopen()function and still having problems with it, openinig remote files is not a stupid question (I think).

Forums are better than manuals for quick lazy guys like me.