What IDE is everyone using?

Anon

I was hoping to find out what IDE php developers are using, and what they have to say about it?
Is there a near perfect PHP IDE out there with debugging, source control and other features?

[deleted]

I don't use an IDE at all, just editplus and a test-server. That's enough for me at the mo.

amcgrath

vi...

[deleted]

vi?
A PHP developer who uses vi is be:
a) a genius
b) a masochist
c) a loony

...which one are you? hmm? 🙂

:1,$s/brain/sawdust/g

amcgrath

All three... when I took this job the guy I replaced had a windows machine with some php edit program, fucking thing drove me nuts. VI is so much easier and straight forward. (when I was a Great Bridge, it was all I had available, so I had to get used to it. Now, whenever I type in this dmaned textbox, I always hit ESC and remove everything...😉

Anon

*nix pico
winblows ultra-edit

Ultra-edit has an awesome search and replace
plus tag highlighting

Anon

Hey
No one having any use for debuggers?
What about using microsoft ide for PHP?

amcgrath

Debuggers??? I don't need no stinkin debugger!!! Make it a practice to write error-free code!!!! (Yea, I wish)

Anon

I use editor in mc (midnight commander) on linux. It's similar to vi.

To edit files you position cursor over text file -> then hit F4 key. To view files you hit F3. Very simple -> just what I need.

lucianoes

    Microsoft ide for PHP???
    >:-\

    Luciano ES
    Santos - SP - Brasil

Anon

Luciano
This is what I am talking about...

http://dd.cron.ru/dbg/sshot.php

[deleted]

That url does not appear to exist.

Anyway, what do you need a debugger for if the script tells you all it's errors in runtime?

Anon

If the script gets too long, and does too many things, then it helps to have a debugger wouldn't you agree? You can put break points where you please and check values.Step in and out of functions. I used to code in Visual Basic 5 a lot, and miss the IDE ever since.

http://dd.cron.ru/dbg/sshot.php

this url works for me. Anyway if it doesn't go to dd.cron.ru and look for it.

A bunch of screen shot of the debugger in use with several IDEs

vincent wrote:

That url does not appear to exist.

Anyway, what do you need a debugger for if the script tells you all it's errors in runtime?

[deleted]

"If the script gets too long, and does too many things, then it helps to have a debugger wouldn't you agree?"

Not really. It helps if you write clean code and put proper error_checking in it.

"You can put break points where you please and check values.Step in and out of functions."

Break-points are IF statements, and checking values is a simple print_r().
Stepping through a script line by line is the only thing that could be usefull.

"I used to code in Visual Basic 5 a lot, and miss the IDE ever since."

That is because Visual Basic is a piece pf MS-Crap that is un-debuggable without a special tool.
PHP is a clear and understandable language that has very complete error-reporting.
So far I have not had a single bug that I could not explain by just looking at the code.

... and the URL still is not working, I cannot even find cron.ru 🙁

lucianoes

    Damnedest thing. I viewed the page easily. It is a screenshot of MS Visual Studio. Looks nice.

    Luciano ES
    Santos - SP - Brasil

[deleted]

This I do not like.

Any mirrors of taht site, I'm getting curious now.

lucianoes

    I'm not sure if you're missing much. That debugger is supposed to work with PHPEdit (http://www.phpedit.net), there is a link to http://dd.cron.ru/dbg at PHPEdit's site, but I never managed to make that debugger work.
    The only really interesting thing at http://dd.cron.ru/dbg/sshot.php is the screenshot of a floating tooltip showing the temporary values of an array's keys presumably before they are changed by any method or function, suggesting that the debug feature would allow one to keep tabs on the values of variables and arrays without having to echo them in the middle of one's code. That would be one terrific feature, provided you can make that debugger behave properly.
    I downloaded the page with all pictures for you. You can download it here: http://us.f1.yahoofs.com/users/85cb0177/bc/Friends/DBG+site.zip?bcH4fI8AtP2Bk2Ub

    Luciano ES
    Santos - SP - Brasil

Anon

Well, I tried it this morning.
It was very crude. How it works is...
you enable the debugger on the server, and then u run the client.
You need to tell the debugger client which Editor to use for debugging.
I set it up to use Interdev
so when I viewed a php page, it loaded Interdev and stepped to the first line of code.
The main problem here seems to be, that it loads up a new instance of the IDE everytime you refresh a page when your debugger client is running!!

Some cool stuff you could do in VB was...
not only examine an array, structures but also change the value at run time!!
And alter program flow while the programming is executing by dragging the current line of execution to anywhere you felt like, you could force it to enter a loop, which the code normally wouldn't.
Once you get used to these features you really miss them, just like a cell phone 😉