encoding source

[Anon]

I want that some users who actually use my applications on their local machine (WINNT, APACHE, MYSQL, ...) can not see the php source. Even if they have admin authorisations.
Does anybody have practice on this?

[Anon]

You are waisting your time trying to encode PHP code, if you need to hide your code use C++ and compile it

Why on earth you would want to hide PHP code from anyone is beyond my understanding,
i thought PHP was open source

PHP is just PHP your never gonna write the next OS in PHP so i wouldn't worry too much about code theives

Mark

[Anon]

Check out the encoder at http://www.zend.com/.

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Note: encoding can be very expensive, and whatever you are doing, it is not original. Is it worth that much money?

[Anon]

The PHP Language is open source, Mark. It doesn't mean that all applications written in PHP have to be open source too!

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I can understand that people want to hide their sources because it took them a long time to create them.

But the thing is: whatever you create; somebody else has already created the same, or is just about to finish.
So hiding your source may keep your routines safe, but you can't hide the functionality.

So you might just as well keep it opensource and at least get credit for the sourcecode.

[Anon]

Encoding an interpreted language will slow things down that much it will give your opersition a speed advantage over your product

I agree with Vincent in what he say's...
get the credit before someone else does ...lol

If you really want to hide your source code you should really be looking at compiling it in C++ and forget about encoding PHP it's just not worth the hassle

Mark

[Anon]

PHP4 isn't an interpreted language - it is compiled before execution. Zend Encoder does give a speed increase.

[Anon]

Cause it's interpreted you idiot it's not in a binary state when the compilier picks it up

I suggest you take some time out reading and make sure you know waht your talking about before posting stupid reply's

Mark

[Anon]

There is no need to get offensive, Mark.

PHP 3 was an interpreted language. Each instruction was executed at the parser went along.

PHP 4, on the other hand is parsed in its entirity, then compiled and then executed afterward.

To quote the Zend website (http://www.zend.com/zend/whats-new.php) 'The PHP 4.0 scripting engine - Zend Engine - uses a much more efficient "compile-then-execute" paradigm, instead of the "execute-while parsing" model employed in PHP 3.0.'

So I would suggest you do some reading and make sure you know what you're talking about before posting offensive comments.

--Mike

[Anon]

But the thing is: whatever you create; somebody else has already created the same, or is just about to finish. <<

I disagree

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"I suggest you take some time out reading and make sure you know waht your talking about before posting stupid reply's"

you could at least follow your own advice and read the posts before you bite somebody's head off.

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"I disagree"

Optimism or ignorance? :-)

[Anon]

Well, its just that there are pieces of software that I have written for GG.COM that I'm quite sure are reasonably unique - to the point where GG.COM has considered selling the software to third parties. But they won't do it if they have to release the source code - and Zend Encoder is just stupidly priced!

[Anon]

PHP Scripts are not binaries so how the hell can you say they are not interpreted

Please do some reading first !

Mark

[Anon]

Because by the time they're executed, they are binaries. They're compiled at runtime!

[Anon]

This is my last post on this one

But hey, you could say that about JavaScript
it get compiled at some point it has too

I don't want to appear rude but you are definately wrong on this one, PHP is an interpreted language it needs PHP.exe to run
where as compiled binaries don't they run on the system at machine level

Mark
hdwt.com

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"Please do some reading first !"

sigh....

It's no good telling others to do some reading before they reply if you refuse to do it yourself.

[Anon]

According to the Zend website, PHP 4 is compiled before execution. This is different to an interpreted language (like PHP 3), which is executed as the file is being parsed.

PHP 4 works thus:
Browser makes a request to the web server. The web server makes a request to the PHP web server interface. The interface calls the Zend engine, which reads the code from the disc. Here comes the important part: The code is then passed to the run time compiler, which creates a compiled representation of the script. The compiled script is then passed to the Zend executor. The output from the executor is then passed to the web server interface, which passes the data back to the web server and from there to the browser.

It is all detailed at www.zend.com, do take a look when you have the time.

[Anon]

While you may think that the "Zend Encoder is just stupidly priced", it's the only way I know to encode PHP source code. If your programs are good enough to encode and protect, the price of the Zend Encoder is justified.

Bob