which is considered to be "higher-level"

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My friend and I have an argument about which is considered to be "higher-level" php or html?

I think php is higher lavel since it's closer to human language and father away from 1' and 0's...

[Anon]

Which is higher-level: apples or oranges?

HTML is a standard for describing the structure of documents. It's a data-description language, not a programming language.

[Anon]

Html is higher level as it is farther from 1's and 0's than PHP/SQL. Take the OSI Model for example: HTML is Layer 7 (Application) while PHP/SQL is Layer 5 (Session). Bits/bytes are Layer 1 (Physical). So therefore Html is higher (farther away) from bits/bytes and closer to the user than PHP/SQL.

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The way I look at it, both are languages, one "data-description" and the other programming... I would assume programming language would be considered "higher-level" language then data-description one...since it performs higher level tasks...

[Anon]

Steve Yelvington wrote:

Which is higher-level: apples or oranges?

Well Steve,
Oranges are higher since an Orange Tree's mature height is 20-25 ft, While an Apple Tree's mature height is 10-20 ft...

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When I say that php is father away from 1's and 0's and is closer to human language I mean that it is more like human language and less like machine languages... and I figure php is much more human then the html...
Php version:

Mom:
if ($u_touch_this == true)
{
$mom_response="spank";
}
else
{
$mom_ response ="";
}

Son:
if($mom_response =" spank")
{
son_response = "cry";
}
and so on...

HTML:
Mom:
If u <table> then I'll TR and then TD you!!!
Son:
Don’t TD me...

I figure php part was more human..."higher level" LANGUAGE

[Anon]

To relate the way a language looks while it is programmed before encoding to their high/low status is very subjective and pointless.

[Anon]

Not to mention that the internet is a network with users and the OSI model is revelant.

[Anon]

I tend to agree with Steve's comment; there really is no connection. You are comparing these "layers" to the OSI model, which is a flawed analogy. In OSI or other high-low hierarchies of the sort, the lower levels are an elaboration of the upper levels. The higher-levels provide an abstraction... yet still there is a direct connection between such levels... there is a direct one-to-one mapping of a high-level function to a lower set of functions that all achieve the same goal. The purpose of abstracting to a higher form is to reduce redundancies and workload and gain productivity.

We find no such connection with PHP/HTML. They have diverging functions. I believe Steve most succintly already made this point while I am being most loquacious, but consider this simple fact: you cannot achieve server-scripting with just HTML. You cannot write a guestbook script in HTML. PHP is a program whose output is HTML. You cannot look at HTML source and have any indication of the scripting methods used to generate it. Simple as that.