too many Qs, too few answers

farzal

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Too many bullsh*t posts.

farzal

Ok, I finally solved the problem after an all nighter. Here's the deal when you want to install Pdflib support on php4:

Get libraries for pdflib, jpeg, tiff, zlib from links given in the manual or from sites like sunfreeware.com. DO configure, make, make install, etc.

configure pdflib, make, make install

In the JPEG directory (whereever you installed jpef libs), you have to CREATE A DIRECTORY, /lib. Copy all the files that contain the txt, "jpeg_read_header", in that lib directory. Also copy the *.a files in that lib directory. I have version 6b installed. This is because the "configure" file of php will look for this subroutine (jpeg_read_header) in that lib directory. You can see that by going through configure file of php4

pdflib documentation talks about having the default zlib, tiff, png within pdf lib. That didn't work for me on Solaris, so I suggest ignore that notice and download and install your own libraries. They are free anyways.

Now, when you configure php, use these options:
--with-pdflib=pdflibinstallation
--with-jpeg-dir=jpegLibraryInstallation
--with-zlib-dir=zlibInstallInstallation
--with-tiff-dir=tiffInstallInstallation

Thanks,
Farzal

farzal

those who cannot dance (help) put the blame on the floor (posts)

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Hmm sounds like another disgruntled person who didn't get help quickly enough.

cordex

Vincent is a valued member of the PHPBuilder community. He answers questions on a regular basis accurately and succinctly.

On the other hand, I've not seen the same from you.

Who's blaming the floor?

farzal

So what you are essentially saying is that this is a trading place .. one can ask questions only if one has the knowledge to answers questions of other members?

I didn't want to drag this on, and I am sure you will agree its a waste of time to argue a petty matter. I posted something in frustration and valued members fulfilled their responsibility by replying accurately and succinctly. Glad to know there is more than 1 valued member.

Thanks,
Farzal

smarlowe

No, this site is a community. You have no right to demand answer to your questions. You ask, and if someone has time and knowledge, they can help.

But nobody's waiting to answer your every question with slavish attention. If you have a problem with your car and open the hood, do you have the right to yell at the guy who finally pulls over to help about how the other people who passed you by didn't help?

cordex

How the devil did you get that out of what I said? I was merely offended that you would make a statement derisive of an established poster for no apparent reason. You asked a question to which no one either knew the answer to or wanted to take the time to answer and when you don't get a response immediately, you attacked the board and the first member who responded to this whining post.
I never at any point stated that Vincent could ask questions because he had contributed. Nor did I say you could not ask questions because I had not seen much in the way of assistance you have provided. I have no clue where you pulled that from.
In my humble and unworthy opinion, you have been uneccessarily militant about this entire issue.

I do, however, agree that this needs be dragged on no longer.

-Ben

farzal

ok, yeah, whatever. One can come up with a thousand excuses but that doesn't solve the problem .. not exactly sure if it was a problem in the first place. At any place in time, there are always more learners and fewer experts in any field. Thats exactly the issue here. But saying that doesn't mean that someone is 'attacking' when one is simply observing a situation.

This is a board for asking install related questions, not making observations or critisizing such observations.

Farzal

mdmann

Just a very slight bit of defense for
Farzal--yes, this is a community, and it is
polite and appropriate in a community to say
"I'm sorry, I can't help you with that right
now--either because I don't know the answer,
or I don't have the time at the moment."
In such a faceless environment, it's hard
to know if people have seen your post and
are just ignoring it (like passing a
stranger on the road who is obviously
having car trouble, to use the previously
offered analogy), or just aren't able to
help for whatever reason. When you are
frustrated, and are needing assistance, the
two can look an awful lot alike.

I don't want to put words in Farzal's
mouth or intentions in his head, but I would
like to believe that even a simple response
to the effect of "I don't know the answer,
or I will think about that problem" would
have been welcome, and would have alleviated
his frustration somewhat. It would have at
least indicated that his post wasn't ignored.

And before I get jumped on for suggesting
that every post should get a prompt response,
I'm not saying that, because I know that it
isn't possible. The point is that
"communities" are give and take. Sometimes,
it's expected that a person will at least
show "empathy" (for lack of a better word)
for the problem even if they don't have a
solution. One way of facilitating this is
that if you see that someone seems to be
getting frustrated that their post isn't
being addressed, drop them a line to say
you don't have an answer or can't help them
right at that moment. Anything is better
than radio-silence.

Michael

Anon

Farzal wrote:

SNIP

This is a board for asking install related questions, not making observations or critisizing such observations.

END QUOTE

So, how come the first message of this thread said:

"too many Qs, too few answers"

isn't that an observation and a critique all at once? ;⁾

but seriously, on your install issue, try a newer distro, like RH 7.1. They usually have things like zlib, libjpeg, libtiff, and maybe even libttf loaded.

Take a look at what packages are on your machine. for instance, on an RPM box, you can do this:

'rpm -qa|grep -i jpeg' to see if any package with the word jpeg is already installed.

If the libs are installed you're probably ok.

did you know that after you build a lib by hand, you have to make sure that whatever path you intall it into is in your /etc/ld.so.conf file and run ldconfig to make your system see it? Well, I gotta go frag users, so that's all I have time to post. ;⁾

farzal

My comment was supposed to be a sarcastic remark at myself.....

I am installing all this stuff as a regular user, not as root.

The problem was: configure* from php was looking for a function read_xxx_xxx() in libjpeg. The default location was /<pathToJpeg>/lib .. the jpeg libraries I extracted didn't contain the /lib directory. Instead ALL files were in dir /<pathToJpeg> So obvioulsly configure failed. I had 2 options. Either to change the configure file or to manually create /<pathToJpeg>/lib .. I figured 2nd option was easier for me, so I just created that dir. and [placed a copy of library file in /<pathToJpeg>/lib

Either the jpeg library is at fault or configure is at fault.

Peace
Farzal

Anon

Hey, what the heck, SURE

Let's all go start and say to every post that comes

«hey.. sorry dewd, but I don't know the fucking anwser.. see you later, alligator»

Let's all make the DB get flood of useless posts ..

That IS BAD.. If I see a post, with responses I think to my self

'Hey, this question had responses.. probably the question is already post, I ain't going to read it again' .. so, if everybody starts HEY_I_DONT_KNOW'ing I wont fucking anwser a question..

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Ehm.. calm down, take an asprin... this thread died 10 days ago....

Anon

Hell, I was searching for one of my messages.. and I didn't even read the date..

🙂

it's for the record that I find posts saying I DONT KOW ridiculous ..

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🙂

mdmann

You completely missed the point of my post.
Thus here we are, nearly a week-and-a-half
AFTER the fact, with you trolling around and
ranting about how you "find posts saying I
DON'T KOW [sic] ridiculous."

I never suggested that everybody that didn't
know the answer to a post should post a
message to say so. In fact, I said that if
you happen to see that someone might be
getting a little frustrated that their post
is not being addressed, you might drop them a
line just so they know SOMEBODY saw the post,
just out of consideration. That was it.

If you had read all that I wrote or had
bothered to ask what I was saying, there
would be no reason for this thread to
continue, regardless of what you were
"searching for" (trolling material, no
doubt).

Clearly, you have WAY to much free time on
your hands. To your credit, though, you have
demonstrated that your vocabularly is quite
impeccable.

GAFL!

Anon

I actually understood everything you wrote..

My point being.. if a post is left alone, no anwsers, I'll probably look at it.
If I do know the awnser or if I can help, I will. If not, why should I post ? I would only be doing one: feeding useless posts (like this one, oh yeah, I must learn to shut up.. or not).

And, I've done that "I'll try to find a solution to your problem" thing once, as I was a bit ocuppied to think about it,and it only got the person who was asking to say that if I didn't knew the answer, I should post that.

I wasn't trolling aroud, I got some more interesting stuff to do..
if my post was THAT offensive, I apollogize ..

shall the thread end now ?